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seiberwing ([info]seiberwing) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2012-04-05 16:51:00


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Being offended about being offended. Loudly.
[info]fuckyeah makes a run of the mill post in fanficrants about the use of racist phonetic accents in a kink meme fic. Everyone nods and tsks appropriately...except for [info]bgaleb, for whom this is just the last straw. A stand must be taken. And that stand must be coated in more exclamation points than a porcupine's got needles.



I am outraged

I thought all day about all of this and decided to write an open letter to all the pests.

I am sick and tired of all the uneducated fuckheads who took it upon themselves to be offended on behalf of all humanity over a phonetic accent of all things. In that case you have to be offended by half of all classic European literature, you clot-poles!! I am sick and tired of always being politically correct, always being the "smart"one, always being polite and such. But in this case I just fucking can't be all of that!! If you're going to come here and criticize people anonymously, then you can just fuck off.

You choose to be offended by a fucking kink meme for crying out loud!! I don't care about your feelings! I am here to read fan-fiction for god's sake! And it doesn't matter how many people try to reassure the author, or your blubbering justifications, the damage is already done! Because of people like you we can't have nice things. No one wants to hear how offended you are on a kink meme. I am so outraged, I am almost speechless! This is my opinion, if you feel offended by it I do not care whatsoever, you stupid, narrow-minded self righteous fools!

Oh, by the way, if all of you critics are so sophisticated, why don't you go read James Joyce or Leo Tolstoy, not filthy porn on a kink meme then? If you're on a kink meme , you don't have the right to be offended. Hypocrites.

I wish I knew who Author!Anon is so I could console them with hugs and chocolate!


People attempt to explain why kink-acceptance does not mean racism-acceptance, but they are not having with it. The honor of the kink meme must be protected from people wishing to not be confronted by racial caricatures.


I am not here to discuss the law, but a kink meme IS a SPECIAL place indeed! Its is deliciously filthy and kinky and deviant and full of prohibited fantasies and explicit descriptions! If people willingly go there they should be prepared for anything, that's my point. Did you ever read about all the kinks in your daily newspaper? No? I thought not. But if you ever do, THEN you could be offended, because some of the stuff IS PROHIBITED BY LAW in some countries or states.

But we could write and read about it on the kink meme freely. I don't see you complaining about rape or underage fucking or drinking; don't you feel offended by it? So go educate yourself for crying out loud!




[info]bgaleb even posts the offending chunk of the fic so we can all see how unracist it is. It, um...it does not work as they planned. Undaunted, [info]bgaleb continues to yell about how little they care, and flounces eight or nine times in succession until finally the banhammer a voluntary unfriending of the community ends their piteous existence. And nothing of value was lost.

For bonus content and even more exclamation point overload, they go to wail in their journal about it. Something there got deleted, but I have caps should they decide to end the rest.


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[info]yomikoreadman
2012-04-05 11:36 pm UTC (link)
That fic is so much worse than I imagined. I don't think I can enjoy my filthy porn when it's filled with filthy racism.

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[info]seiberwing
2012-04-05 11:36 pm UTC (link)
Equating porn with bad, offensive writing seems somehow offensive to porn.

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[info]the__ivorytower
2012-04-06 12:02 am UTC (link)
Man, that post was *sane* when I saw it last. SANE.

Also, their argument makes no sense. Racism is not a kink.

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[info]ekaterinv
2012-04-06 03:21 am UTC (link)
I have had many arguments with otherwise intelligent people about this point. There was a whole article about how anyone who looked at racist porn and said "ick, that's racist" was a racist.

People don't seem to get the difference between this stuff. Rape fantasies/ravishment play are not actually rape or supporting rape. (Though some porn is and does -- less than there used to be though, percentage-wise.) Racist fantasies ARE ACTUALLY RACIST and supporting racism. But persuading people out of what turns them on isn't going to work, either. I really don't know what to do with this argument.

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[info]discokali
2012-04-06 12:24 am UTC (link)
I'm just going to leave this here...
http://www.journalfen.net/community/wank_report/888.html?thread=8214904#t8214904

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[info]cleolinda
2012-04-06 12:36 am UTC (link)
I am sick and tired of always being politically correct, always being the "smart"one, always being polite and such.

O rly.

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[info]sepiamagpie
2012-04-06 11:44 am UTC (link)
Have I got good news for them!

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[info]pantyless_angel
2012-04-06 01:20 am UTC (link)
... What exactly is the point bgaleb is trying to make? I really don't get it.

Also; reading the copy/pasted part, that is just cringe inducingly bad. It's like the written word version of nails on a chalk board to me.

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[info]queencallipygos
2012-04-06 02:17 am UTC (link)
What exactly is the point bgaleb is trying to make?

"People into kink should be open-minded and un-PC enough to not get all bent out of shape over the way people write a dialect!"

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[info]roachspit
2012-04-06 03:37 am UTC (link)
My bet's on, "I once wrote a fic using a racist phonetic accent and this post hurts me delicate fee-fees! I am a Special Snowflake and you must respect my fee-fees!"

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(no subject) - [info]bienegold, 2012-04-06 03:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lied_ohne_worte, 2012-04-06 04:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2012-04-06 08:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2012-04-07 07:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2012-04-06 11:45 am UTC

[info]fools_game
2012-04-06 01:58 am UTC (link)
I like toward the end of the thread, when she repeatedly goes "There is no point to continue this nonsense! Peace Out!" in six or seven different threads, and then devolves into shouting at people to "Fuck off!" when they keep mocking her. Including the community mod, who tries to reason with her briefly but can't contain their amusement.

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(no subject) - [info]tehrin, 2012-04-09 10:01 pm UTC

[info]b_jellybean
2012-04-06 02:17 am UTC (link)
Oh, by the way, if all of you critics are so sophisticated, why don't you go read James Joyce or Leo Tolstoy, not filthy porn on a kink meme then?

I know this is a tiny point in a whole mess of unfunny, but this line killed me, since Joyce's letters are pretty much the filthiest thing I have ever read, on a kink meme or off of it.

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(no subject) - [info]mmanurere, 2012-04-06 02:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2012-04-06 02:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2012-04-06 03:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tehrin, 2012-04-09 10:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2012-04-07 07:05 am UTC

[info]ekaterinv
2012-04-06 03:25 am UTC (link)
some of the stuff IS PROHIBITED BY LAW in some countries or states

Are we supposed to be offended because any non-penis-in-vagina sex is technically illegal in so many places? And, for instance, that sex toys are illegal in Alabama? Because I am. Or are we supposed to be offended by what's illegal, period, no matter how antiquated and anti-human the law is?

Also, putting rape, teenagers having sex with each other, and teenagers drinking alcohol on the same offense-level: what the hell.

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(no subject) - [info]roachspit, 2012-04-06 03:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2012-04-06 07:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2012-04-06 11:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2012-04-07 07:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]roachspit, 2012-04-07 07:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2012-04-07 07:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]roachspit, 2012-04-07 08:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]spawn_of_kong, 2012-04-07 12:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2012-04-08 05:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]anthologia, 2012-04-10 08:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]roachspit, 2012-04-13 08:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]amaltheia, 2012-04-07 07:06 pm UTC

[info]maverickz3r0
2012-04-06 04:05 am UTC (link)
Good gravy, I was in that post when it was sane. What the fuck? Who called that fuckstick in?

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[info]notarose
2012-04-06 05:10 am UTC (link)
Because of people like you we can't have nice things.

Surely that statement is never said at least partly in jest?

Also, when did racist phonetic accents turn into a nice thing?

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[info]dontgiveahoot
2012-04-06 05:52 am UTC (link)
Am I the only one who suspects that bgaleb is actually the anonymous author in question and didn't like being wanked?

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(no subject) - [info]sadisticferret, 2012-04-06 05:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dontgiveahoot, 2012-04-06 05:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]discokali, 2012-04-06 07:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2012-04-06 07:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]discokali, 2012-04-06 08:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2012-04-06 08:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]discokali, 2012-04-06 09:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2012-04-07 10:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]discokali, 2012-04-07 10:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2012-04-07 10:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankaholic, 2012-04-07 08:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankaholic, 2012-04-07 08:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]loopywafflehead, 2012-04-14 04:33 pm UTC

[info]tinmiss
2012-04-06 07:26 am UTC (link)
Phonetic accents always annoy me in writing, off-topicish.

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(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2012-04-06 11:51 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]kookaburra, 2012-04-07 04:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2012-04-07 07:41 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]tinmiss, 2012-04-07 08:35 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]tinmiss, 2012-04-07 08:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lied_ohne_worte, 2012-04-06 12:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chikane, 2012-04-06 12:44 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]lied_ohne_worte, 2012-04-06 02:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tinmiss, 2012-04-06 11:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]yattara, 2012-04-06 09:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2012-04-06 09:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]yattara, 2012-04-06 10:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2012-04-07 09:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2012-04-06 03:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chibikaijuu, 2012-04-19 07:31 pm UTC
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[info]tez
2012-04-06 07:38 am UTC (link)
Wow. That's a hell of a lot of effort being put into defending something indefensible, right there. There's asshattery, and then there's being a total douchekabob over something that you reeeeeeeally shouldn't be a douchekabob over. Not if you want to avoid having your douchekabob-ism plastered all over the internet.

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(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2012-04-06 03:11 pm UTC

[info]chikane
2012-04-06 07:44 am UTC (link)
Bgaleb is clearly the best white knight ever.

It's like a defense lawyer that tries to defend their client by calling the jury idiots to their faces, using a photo of his middle finger as defensive evidence, and then reveals the client did the crime, but did so even worse than the persecution thought, so they clearly are innocent!

Clearly the best defender ever.

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(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2012-04-06 07:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chikane, 2012-04-06 08:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lied_ohne_worte, 2012-04-06 12:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2012-04-06 05:24 pm UTC

[info]eilan
2012-04-06 01:30 pm UTC (link)
Wow.

I mean, really, wow. How did anyone thing that was a good idea?

(Also, just as an aside to not derail, but isn't it also... done the wrong way around? Replacing l with r instead of r with l?)

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(no subject) - [info]lied_ohne_worte, 2012-04-06 01:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]catmoran, 2012-04-06 07:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]roachspit, 2012-04-07 06:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]catmoran, 2012-04-07 03:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]roachspit, 2012-04-07 06:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]honorh, 2012-04-11 07:30 pm UTC

[info]phosfate
2012-04-06 05:23 pm UTC (link)
"Your brahd pressure seems to be erevated."

"Your accent seems to be from 1922."

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(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2012-04-06 05:45 pm UTC

[info]mirhanda
2012-04-06 07:07 pm UTC (link)
I thought we had a rule about posting stuff from personal journals? Am I mixing up my communities again?

That said, is this person the author of the fic in question? They sound seriously invested in it.

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(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2012-04-06 07:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mirhanda, 2012-04-06 07:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2012-04-06 11:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mirhanda, 2012-04-06 11:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]janegraddell, 2012-04-07 08:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistal, 2012-04-07 11:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]janegraddell, 2012-04-08 12:04 am UTC

[info]rhosyn_du
2012-04-06 09:21 pm UTC (link)
And the author of the fic chimes in!

http://kinkme-merlin.livejournal.com/30557.html?thread=31064669#t31064669

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(no subject) - [info]cyndra_falin, 2012-04-06 10:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rhosyn_du, 2012-04-07 12:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2012-04-08 10:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2012-04-09 04:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lied_ohne_worte, 2012-04-09 10:54 am UTC

[info]janegraddell
2012-04-07 08:48 am UTC (link)
Bgaleb really pissed me off. I wasn't going to engage, but the "a kink meme is a special place" comment set me off. Kink memes are different spaces, but not in the way that bgaleb thinks, and they're certainly not places to hid offensive racist garbage.

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(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2012-04-07 05:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]janegraddell, 2012-04-07 11:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2012-04-08 03:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]janegraddell, 2012-04-08 04:39 am UTC

[info]puipui
2012-04-10 05:06 am UTC (link)
I'm a few days late to this party, but my god. My god.

I am so outraged, I am almost speechless!

And yet, alas, you were not.

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