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seiberwing ([info]seiberwing) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2012-10-24 12:46:00


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Entry tags:disagreement is attacking, don't know what wank is, rules are for suckers, spn is never the solution, suicide threats always go well, yuletide

Yuletide TMI (Or: How Bipagan Ruined Christmas)
[Many thanks to a certain charitable mouse on wank_report, who I have plagiarized immensely.]

For people who don't know, Yuletide is a large fandom exchange for rare fandoms. Every year there's a nomination and review period to determine what fandoms are eligible, and participants can request and offer to write fics for eligible fandoms.

People are also allowed to write "optional details" in their sign-ups, letting their assigned writers know what they would like to read in each of their requested fandoms. Even though optional details are very much optional, writers generally try to give their recipients what they want, and recipients generally try to make it easy for their writer by being open to a variety of options. Sometimes people write letters to their writers expanding on those optional details, and post those letters to the main comm for everyone to read.



Which brings us to this letter. [info]bipagan is not at all interested in making things easier for her writer. The letter begins with many paragraphs about extremely personal, seemingly irrelevant, and kinda offensive stuff about her life.

Did you know post-partum depression will kick your ass worse than normal depression because you suddenly remember every little slight that ever happened to you let alone the major life issues? Yeah, it sucks. I advise against it.

I am pretty sure that is how normal depression works too. Slogging all the way to the bottom gets to [info]bipagan's actual request: a crossover between her rare fandom Blue Bloods and huge, ineligible fandom Supernatural. (Please note that this is the vampire novel series Blue Bloods and not the television show about New York cops. Making the mistake I did will leave you very confused.)

What the hell does all this shit have to do with Blue Bloods? Well, I use to find joy in paranormal romance but you will see that I only have one listed and it is extremely specific. I want that cross over. I’ve wanted that cross over for a very long time. Ever since I picked up my first Blue Bloods book I couldn’t help but think, “What the hell are the Winchesters doing right now? Does Castiel know about all this?” If you can’t write a cros over, please do not write a Blue Bloods fic. Go read one of the blogs. They are really quick reads and I promise you won’t regret it.

If the writer isn't interested in fighting through an absolutely massive canon to suit her whims, [info]bipagan tells them to write a fic for one of her other fandoms instead, even though: 1) They might not be familiar with her other fandoms, 2) They might not be interested in her other fandoms, 3) Even if they were interested, they might not feel capable of writing for it, and most importantly, 4) They signed up to write Blue Bloods fic.

Discussion ensues on the yuletide anon meme.

Back at [info]bipagan's house, people point out that requesting a crossover and nothing else might be unfair to a writer who is assigned to write her a Blue Bloods fic. She responds by publishing the IP addresses of anonymous commentators and then deleting all the comments. Luckily, someone took screencaps, including the unedited version of the letter and references to her suicidal impulses.

She then leaves a comment on the yuletide comm about how mean people are to her.

I've blocked commentary because I was being wanked on my own journal. I have quite enough hardship in life without being put down by strangers. As my husband said after I cried, "People on the internet are assholes. You put yourself out there and they kick you down. You could always do what I do and just not put yourself out there.

I thought it was required that I post my Dear Yuletide letter here so that my writer would be able to find the letter. I know I've had trouble finding a Dear Yuletide letter. I know better for next year. I'll just post at my journal and hope they find it.


[info]fail_fandomanon talks amongst itself. [info]bipagan grudgingly edits the letter, giving us the version seen up top, but it's a little late...the potential writer has already pulled out. One can hardly blame them.


TL;DR: Yuletide requester gives TMI on her life while making absurd requests of her writer and veiled suicide references, then gets defensive when people politely protest.



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[info]ekaterinv
2012-10-24 11:22 pm UTC (link)
Even though this is unfunnyfandom, I may have squeed when I saw "Yuletide". It is such a dependable source of wank.

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2012-10-24 11:49 pm UTC (link)
Ain't it just.

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[info]bienegold
2012-10-25 12:35 am UTC (link)
You mean I'm supposed to have a baby for remembering all the stupid shit I've done and everything everyone's done to me? Damn, I'm doing it wrong.

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[info]romana03
2012-10-25 02:06 am UTC (link)
I don't know what she thinks not post-partum depression is. Fluffy bunnies, sunshine and sweeties, perhaps?

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[info]romana03
2012-10-25 01:56 am UTC (link)
I was just going to post this. The level of entitlement is... astounding.

I should probably mention that I'm in the yuletide coal comments, [info]gibbon_plinth is me.

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[info]romana03
2012-10-25 06:00 am UTC (link)
Um, yeah. Rename token made that unnecessary *nods*

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[info]kannaophelia
2012-10-25 06:48 am UTC (link)
:) ♥

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[info]napalmnacey
2012-10-28 12:40 pm UTC (link)
There is a lot of Misfit love up in this shit. I am happy to see it. (I may have wanted to be Stormer more than anything else when I was 7.)

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[info]sadisticferret
2012-10-25 03:14 am UTC (link)
I was waiting for this to turn up here. Man, talk about an entitlement complex.

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[info]risha
2012-10-25 03:28 am UTC (link)
Did you know post-partum depression will kick your ass worse than normal depression because you suddenly remember every little slight that ever happened to you let alone the major life issues? Yeah, it sucks. I advise against it.

I am pretty sure that is how normal depression works too.


Or me in a manic phase - turns my GAD up to 11. And all of the perfectly neurotypical people who can't let go of a grudge. Basically, a huge percentage of the population appears to be permanently caught in postpartum depression, men included. Who knew?

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[info]staroverthebay
2012-10-26 02:27 am UTC (link)
Basically, a huge percentage of the population appears to be permanently caught in postpartum depression, men included. Who knew?

Well, the fans of Mpreg will be happy to hear this, maybe?
(sorry, I couldn't resist!)

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[info]sandglass
2012-11-01 05:15 am UTC (link)
I guess I had a baby when I was like 10 and forgot all about it, since that's been my life for forever.

I love how she has to get in that post-partum depression is so much worse than other depression. Just in case we didn't pity her enough already.

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[info]kannaophelia
2012-10-25 05:32 am UTC (link)
I mostly wonder why the hell her husband seems to be enabling her in justifying this mess instead of protecting her. I'm pretty sure that if I did something similar, [info]romana03 would encourage me to delete everything, withdraw from the exchange and step away from the internets until I was feeling more stable and not threatening suicide if I didn't get the gift fic I wanted.

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[info]snacky
2012-10-25 02:54 pm UTC (link)
I was wondering that too. My only guess is that she didn't let him read anything and told him only half-truths, like, "I signed up for this exchange where people are supposed to write you a story you want and everyone is being MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAN to me over my request! I even gave them options! *sobsob*"

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[info]phosfate
2012-10-25 03:27 pm UTC (link)
I'm wondering if that totally real-sounding conversation took place at all.

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[info]puipui
2012-10-26 07:02 am UTC (link)
Of course, it did! In fact, it took place in a restaurant, and afterwards, all the other patrons applauded, and then the mayor showed up and gave her the key to the city!

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[info]caffeine_fairy
2012-10-26 11:16 am UTC (link)
Was she covered in ice cream?

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[info]napalmnacey
2012-10-28 12:41 pm UTC (link)
With rainbow sprinkles.

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[info]janegraddell
2012-10-28 11:16 pm UTC (link)
Seriously, this. The first thing I do when my depression gets bad is drop the internet like a hot potato. When my PPD triggered long-term depression (or vice versa, not sure which was the egg and which the chicken), I stayed out of interacting for months. But sometimes it's hard to figure out that I need to step back until I do something that needs stepping back from.

Lucky for me, I figured out a personal twenty- four hour rule relatively early on. If I get into something and it bothers me or is still upsetting me or pissing me off twenty-four hours later, I know something is wrong with me above and beyond whatever it is I'm arguing about on the internets.

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[info]duraniedrama
2012-10-31 05:26 am UTC (link)
Lucky for me, I figured out a personal twenty- four hour rule relatively early on. If I get into something and it bothers me or is still upsetting me or pissing me off twenty-four hours later, I know something is wrong with me above and beyond whatever it is I'm arguing about on the internets.

I think I'm going to give that rule a try and see how it works for me. I usually wait until I'm at 'weeping openly in public' level before examining what's up.

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[info]kannaophelia
2012-11-02 06:37 am UTC (link)
Yes! Exactly this. If I'm lying awake running over an argument in fandom in my head... it's not the dolls or the stories or whatever. And it doesn't actually matter that someone is being wrong on the internet, even if they are being wrong about me personally, so if it's distressing me that much, there's something else going on.

The hardest thing is learning that just because a thread is updated or something, I don't need to go back and look and answer. But having someone supportive to teach you when to step back is very helpful when the depression gets in the way, and [info]biipagan seems to need that help right now.

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[info]sepiamagpie
2012-10-25 08:57 am UTC (link)
I like where she demands that someone start watching SPN now because she had a hard request once. She's obviously taken lessons in how to make friends and influence people.

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[info]napalmnacey
2012-10-28 12:44 pm UTC (link)
TBH, you could watch like, one episode of SPN and get the entire series. It's kinda like:

1. Winchester Brothers Are Fucked Up
2. They encounter a Weird Thing
3. Weird Thing gets Serious
4. There is shooting, shouting, violence
5. One of them is invariably Possessed By Evil and hurts the other.
6. Other brother refuses to hurt possessed brother.
7. They solve their problem.
8. Coda scene of Men Talking About Their Brotherly Feelings (usually involving love, trust, mistrust and promising to kill the shit out of things).

Did I forget anything?

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[info]janegraddell
2012-10-28 11:18 pm UTC (link)
That is one thing about it being almost entirely character-driven. Plus there's always the tried and true method of setting the story in Season 1.

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[info]sailorcoruscant
2012-10-25 12:39 pm UTC (link)
Now I'm wondering if she's the requester I got one year who asked for four rare anime fandoms, each to be crossed over with a huge american fandom, with the huge fandom dominant. I still can't figure out how she thought it would be possible to write Tokyo Babylon set in America with the boys roadtripping with Sam and Dean.

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[info]phosfate
2012-10-25 03:28 pm UTC (link)
It would be all fun and games until someone lost an eye.

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[info]ari_
2012-10-25 05:17 pm UTC (link)
*snarfs noodles across monitor*

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[info]puipui
2012-10-26 07:04 am UTC (link)
*DIES*

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[info]sepiamagpie
2012-10-25 04:28 pm UTC (link)
Well, the other possibility is that there's two of her, but knowing spn fandom that's kind of likely.

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2012-10-26 06:12 pm UTC (link)
o spn, y u so crazy?

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[info]ari_
2012-10-25 05:18 pm UTC (link)
tangentially, most anime/non-anime crossovers don't work for me. I think I was traumatized by a Highlander/TB/X crossover where Duncan and Subaru end up having sex.

(omg not I have to work on forgetting it again)

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[info]rosehiptea
2012-10-27 02:38 am UTC (link)
More tangentially, I find that Hellsing and Harry Potter can cross over pretty well. Especially since the nature of the supernatural (besides the vampire part) is left fairly vague in Hellsing and the nature of vampires is left fairly vague in Harry Potter.

But I'm referring more to writing them than reading them to be honest.

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[info]full_metal_ox
2012-11-01 10:27 pm UTC (link)
Although I've yet to read any such, I imagine that Hellsing and Hellboy might prove compatible, too.

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[info]ldymusyc
2012-10-26 05:24 am UTC (link)
Please note that this is the vampire novel series Blue Bloods and not the television show about New York cops.

I made this mistake. Spent quite a bit of time thinking that a Blue Bloods/Supernatural crossover would be awesome, because I would so want to see the Winchesters go up against Commissioner Selleck Reagan. Exorcisms! Lawsuits! Undercover operations! And then they'd invite the Winchesters over for dinner and Dean could drown himself in PIEEEEEEEEEE..........

And then I was sorely disappointed.

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[info]janegraddell
2012-10-28 11:24 pm UTC (link)
I don't know either Blue Bloods fandom and I really want to read this. :)

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[info]khym_chanur
2012-10-26 07:32 am UTC (link)
tag: spn is never the solution

*snerk*

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[info]seiberwing
2012-10-26 02:26 pm UTC (link)
Interesting tags for me to wake up to.

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[info]sepiamagpie
2012-10-26 02:32 pm UTC (link)
The doesn't know what wank is refers to her claiming she's being wanked in her own journal, if you're concerned.

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[info]seiberwing
2012-10-27 05:45 am UTC (link)
I was mostly confused to see them in the first place, since I didn't know everyone could edit the tags in this comm.

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[info]sepiamagpie
2012-10-27 01:30 pm UTC (link)
Well, they can't. I, the mod, put them there.

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[info]roachspit
2012-10-26 07:53 am UTC (link)
Did you know post-partum depression will kick your ass worse than normal depression because you suddenly remember every little slight that ever happened to you let alone the major life issues? Yeah, it sucks. I advise against it.

So post-partum depression is just like regular depression, but with the added complication of "baby."

People on the internet are assholes.

Yes. Always. And including [info]bipagan.

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2012-10-26 06:35 pm UTC (link)
But that makes post-partum more special, and excuses behavior that regular ol' depression wouldn't.

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[info]spawn_of_kong
2012-10-26 06:29 pm UTC (link)
*Scrolls through screencap, stops at OMGADORABLE photo of a woman hugging a sloth*

Wank? What wank?

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[info]rosehiptea
2012-10-27 02:39 am UTC (link)
On the bright side, this made me stop procrastinating and get my Yuletide sign-up in before it's too late.

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