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	full_metal_ox 2013-07-11 11:41 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, and let's not forget that possible future social developments are none of science fiction's damn business. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	hopsandbarley 2013-07-12 04:15 am UTC (link)
	I know, right? It's not like any pre-1984 sci-fi works even attempted to show a society that had developed in issues like, say, racial or gender equality! That'd be preposterous! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	agent_hyatt 2013-07-12 04:58 am UTC (link)
	But it wasn't perfect, so it's like it didn't even try. (Reply to this)(Parent)

ekaterinv
2013-07-12 04:40 am UTC (link)

And, of course, things that happened 100 years ago don't have any impact whatsoever on what's going on today. And trying to extrapolate the future from the present doesn't have anything to do with science fiction at all, and speculative fiction in general doesn't have a thing to say about the world of today. Current political issues never ever seep into a writer's work even unintentionally.

Basically, OSC just said he wrote Ender's Game as a pure meaningless fantasy detached from anything and everything important to any human being alive now in the slightest. So, why are we supposed to care about it again?

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	It's a cheap shot, but somebody's gotta make it... full_metal_ox 2013-07-13 01:12 am UTC (link)
	Ender’s Game is set more than a century in the future and has nothing to do with political issues that did not exist when the book was written in 1984. "We have always been at war with the Buggers." (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: It's a cheap shot, but somebody's gotta make it... sepiamagpie 2013-07-13 01:54 am UTC (link)
	I question the fact that the enemy is a euphemism for anal sex. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: It's a cheap shot, but somebody's gotta make it... full_metal_ox 2013-07-13 01:58 am UTC (link)
	I was hinging my wisecrack upon the fact that the original publication date happens to coincide with the title of a rather famous SF sociological cautionary tale, but...holy crap, you may be onto something. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: It's a cheap shot, but somebody's gotta make it... sepiamagpie 2013-07-13 02:01 am UTC (link)
	IT WAS TRES AMUSANT. But I got totally distracted with 'wait, bugger means--' which I remember catching me by surprise when I was reading about the book about a year ago but can't remember if I asked anyone about it then. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: It's a cheap shot, but somebody's gotta make it... full_metal_ox 2013-07-13 02:06 am UTC (link)
	(Sorry if my 'splanation came across as condescending; conversing in oblique allusions is a chronic bad habit of mine, and tone can be a tricky thing online.) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: It's a cheap shot, but somebody's gotta make it... soc_puppet 2013-07-13 08:59 am UTC (link)
	I remember being surprised by that the first time I read it over a decade ago, but I hadn't thought to put two and two together until now. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: It's a cheap shot, but somebody's gotta make it... ekaterinv 2013-07-13 02:33 am UTC (link)
	I'm really surprised no one seems to bring this up. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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