No foolin'. And it's not just suburbs. We destroyed a thriving downtown when it was decided to knock down a bunch of street-level retail and turn it into a four-block windowless mall in the seventies. It's never recovered. Now there is no shopping, no affordable eating, no public transport after 6 pm, no medical care, about a hundred bars where the uni students binge drink on weekends, and a fucking Walgreens that sells outdated milk.