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hopsandbarley ([info]hopsandbarley) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2014-07-16 17:50:00


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Between Dashcon and now this, it's a crappy week to work on Welcome to Night Vale.

(tw: mentions of rape)



Sodomquake is best known to WTNV fans as the co-writer of "Summer Reading Program", the episode that introduced fan-favorite character Tamika Flynn. She is also known among Persona 4 fans as the writer of "Sympathy Crime", a fanfic that features rape. Tumblr user teethforlunch points this out, and is quite critical about Sodomquake being a writer of "underage rape porn".

Then Persona fans who've read the fic speak up, pointing out the fic is victim-focused and doesn't fetishize rape at all

Sodomquake's tumblr is now password protected. Teethforlunch has gutted their blog. (CORRECTION: Tumblr support actually did their job, teethforlunch's account was deleted, and a friend of sodomquake's has taken the URL to prevent them from getting it back) Cecilbaldwin-fan, the fan blogger that popularized the original post, has expressed her remorse over the matter. The creators of Night Vale are not happy, and Cecil Baldwin has decided to take a break from social media.

So, um...do your research, kids.



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[info]agent_hyatt
2014-07-17 12:25 am UTC (link)
Odds that teethforlunch has a pre-existing grudge against Sodomquake and deliberately misrepresented her fics to get fans from another fandom riled up at her?

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[info]hopsandbarley
2014-07-17 12:31 am UTC (link)
If that ends up being the case, that just makes things worse.

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[info]agent_hyatt
2014-07-17 06:58 am UTC (link)
Before teethforlunch's blog was removed and name-squatted so they can't come back, it sounds like the "Sodomquake writes kiddie rape porn" was the only post they'd made. Definitely stinks of socks. FFA (I think) also turned up links to attempted shit-stirring via anon asks before this.

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(no subject) - [info]jyuu, 2014-07-17 08:14 am UTC

[info]eldritch
2014-07-17 05:22 pm UTC (link)
It wouldn't surprise me. Sodomquake has been active in fandom for YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS and has always seemed to be a really genuinely cool person, two things that are guaranteed to attract hate.

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[info]hopsandbarley
2014-07-17 08:47 pm UTC (link)
That's always kind of baffling to me. "Hey a popular person in the fandom that isn't an asshole! I HATE THEM SO MUCH."

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(no subject) - [info]eldritch, 2014-07-17 08:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2014-07-17 10:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2014-07-21 12:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]luthe, 2014-07-23 05:09 pm UTC

[info]kijikun
2014-07-17 12:45 am UTC (link)
Holy shit.

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[info]jyuu
2014-07-17 02:06 am UTC (link)
Teethforlunch's blog was actually deleted by tumblr support in an amazing once-in-a-blue-moon instance of being useful - a friend of sodomquake grabbed the URL to squat on it so the perpetrator couldn't get it again.

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[info]agent_hyatt
2014-07-17 02:23 am UTC (link)
Post about it from the friend. Also color me surprised that tumblr actually has support staff.

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[info]hopsandbarley
2014-07-17 02:27 am UTC (link)
Ah, my mistake. Thanks, guys!

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[info]kijikun
2014-07-17 03:00 am UTC (link)
Glad to hear of tumblr doing something right for a change.

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[info]seiberwing
2014-07-17 04:06 am UTC (link)
It's stuff like this that makes me want to quit tumblr entirely. This...culture, it's vile and toxic and what's worse is that it prioritizes 'rightness' so mcuh that utter slimeballs can sneak through and do anything they want as long as they hang that SJ veneer there.

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[info]rosehiptea
2014-07-17 07:22 am UTC (link)
And no one ever fact checks anything. (OK, that's an exaggeration. But still, it's really frustrating. I've been guilty myself though, so I shouldn't judge.)

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[info]ekaterinv
2014-07-17 08:47 pm UTC (link)
It's oozed into other places too. Not so long ago, the internet was toxic because it took nothing seriously and nothing was sacred, and bullies used that to their advantage. Now, it's toxic because it takes everything too seriously and everything is sacred, and bullies use that to their advantage. I think I'm past hoping we'll reach some kind of reasonable state.

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[info]spawn_of_kong
2014-07-23 01:12 am UTC (link)
Internet discussions do also seem to encourage the "us vs. them" mentality -- something bullies are quick to exploit.

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[info]kaen
2014-07-18 12:40 am UTC (link)
I'm glad that at least this is making some people call out the witch-hunting jackassery side of tumblr, especially when it's people who admit that they've always been afraid to call out this type of behavior lest it turn on them finding the bravery to say 'Stop acting like assholes!' now that they know they're not alone in feeling that way. Hopefully that aspect of this clusterfuck keeps spreading, because damn but it's a message some sides of tumblr could stand to hear.

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[info]seiberwing
2014-07-18 03:45 pm UTC (link)
The only lesson they seem to learn is that they need to witchhunt the right people and that they just missed the target on this one.

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[info]risha
2014-07-17 06:57 am UTC (link)
I'm always interested in such a highly recommended rape (hopefully recovery?) fic, even in a fandom where I don't really know the source material because I only played half of the game. Sympathy Crime gets extra points from me for being written by someone who created Tamika Flynn. So I went looking for the fic.

It looks like Sodomquake has deleted the story off of AO3, and possibly her entire account. It's still up on livejournal, though.

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[info]rosehiptea
2014-07-17 07:19 am UTC (link)
If the new in thing is going to be to go dig up a person's old fanfiction and pass moral judgment on it... then I change my mind, I'm glad I'll never be published.

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[info]undomielregina
2014-07-17 08:34 am UTC (link)
Night Vale fandom, especially on Tumblr, is way extreme in their snowflakeyness. FFA had one person turn up on meme trying to argue that the existence of darkfic is tainting the pure example of joyful queerness that is Cecil/Carlos, which went over about as well as you would expect. So on the bright side, this wouldn't work in the vast majority of fandoms/with most fandom people. On the down side, WTNV fandom's mores are such that it worked there and that represents a pretty huge cultural shift. So I don't think it's going to be the new thing, but I'd also recommend not touching WTNV with a barge pole and keeping a weather eye on new fandoms in case they start going the same way.

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[info]seiberwing
2014-07-17 01:05 pm UTC (link)
I'm so glad I only follow a few 'collection comms' and fanartists. I'm not sure I could put up with any of this bullshit for long.

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(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2014-07-17 10:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kaen, 2014-07-18 01:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2014-07-18 03:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kaen, 2014-07-18 03:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2014-07-18 03:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2014-07-18 04:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2014-07-18 04:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2014-07-18 04:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2014-07-18 02:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2014-07-18 02:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2014-07-18 03:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2014-07-18 03:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2014-07-18 04:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2014-07-18 04:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2014-07-18 04:06 pm UTC

[info]ekaterinv
2014-07-17 08:45 pm UTC (link)
So if you haven't played Persona 4 and plan to, don't un-ROT13 the following, because it is a major spoiler:

Gur crefba lbh fcraq nyzbfg gur jubyr tnzr gelvat gb fgbc vf n encvfg. Ur qbrfa'g encr gur jbzna naq tvey ur zheqref va gur tnzr orpnhfr vafgrnq ur xvyyf gurz: gur svefg bar nppvqragnyyl nf ur'f nggnpxvat ure, gur frpbaq bar sbe rkvfgvat nf n grrantr tvey ur'f nybar jvgu jub jba'g unir frk jvgu uvz. Juvyr ur qbrfa'g encr nalbar va gur tnzr, vg'f cerggl pyrne gung ur'f qbar vg orsber. Guvf vf abg n tnzr sbe xvqqvrf, naq vs lbh jevgr n fgbel nobhg encr gung flzcnguvmrf jvgu gur ivpgvz -- jryc, gung'f jung gur tnzr vf gbb.

But SJWs never do the research. Because they don't have to. A certain segment of the internet has decided that going batshit over keywords without caring about the context is the right and proper thing to do and shows their moral perfection.

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[info]seiberwing
2014-07-17 09:50 pm UTC (link)
It also makes the outrage easily led, as in this case. Tumblr's particularly bad for it since a bad story can spread like reblogged wildfire without people looking at other comments about it (corrections, or even edits of the original posts).

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(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2014-07-17 10:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2014-07-17 10:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2014-07-17 11:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2014-07-17 11:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2014-07-18 03:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]adevyish, 2014-07-18 08:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2014-07-18 01:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2014-07-18 02:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2014-07-18 02:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2014-07-18 03:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2014-07-18 03:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2014-07-18 03:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]agent_hyatt, 2014-07-18 11:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2014-07-19 12:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2014-07-20 10:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2014-07-21 12:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bobafeis, 2014-07-22 07:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2014-07-21 12:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2014-07-18 03:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2014-07-18 06:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2014-07-18 02:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2014-07-18 02:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2014-07-18 02:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2014-07-18 02:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2014-07-18 03:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2014-07-18 03:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2014-07-18 03:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2014-07-18 03:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2014-07-18 04:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]quantumreality, 2014-07-19 05:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2014-07-19 11:38 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2014-07-20 03:35 am UTC

[info]tez
2014-07-18 07:34 am UTC (link)
ROT13'd for major spoilers for both Persona 3 and Persona 4:

V svaq vg vagrerfgvat jura crbcyr qrongr bire juvpu vf qnexre, C3 be C4. V guvax gurl'er nobhg ba cne jvgu rnpu bgure; C4'f cebgnt qbrfa'g qvr ng gur raq yvxr va C3, ohg gur ivyynva vf ZHPU qnexre. Snpryrff ragvgl frg ba qrfgeblvat uhznavgl if. qbhpurjrnfry encvfg naq zheqrere jub vf oyngnagyl naq haercragnagyl abg fbeel sbe jung ur qvq juvyr npgvat yvxr gur fjrrgrfg ohzoyvat vqvbg rire? V guvax bcgvba O vf fpnevre.

The sad thing is that this isn't even 'not doing the research'. Two paragraphs' worth of Sympathy Crime would be all it would take to punch a hole right through all that bullshit.

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(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2014-07-18 07:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tez, 2014-07-18 07:52 pm UTC

[info]sepiamagpie
2014-07-18 03:14 am UTC (link)
Well, that was a fast and angry game of Telephone.

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[info]keri
2014-07-18 12:44 pm UTC (link)
I feel like that's basically the definition of Tumblr sometimes. I'd not use the modifier there, but I've not seen anything like it amongst fans of fountain pens or hobonichi techo yet, which is where I spend most of my time.

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