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es_ ([info]es_) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2010-10-20 09:27:00
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Entry tags:aja: savior or saint?, look before raging, oh aja, rimming is fundamental

Inception unfunny racewank
Shamelessly copied from [info]wank_report. You can see the mice discuss it here.

[info]halflinen writes a pretty long Inception fanfic.

[info]the_moonmoth finds an exchange in the fic racist and problematic.

[info]godofwine disagrees.

[info]bookshop decides to school [info]godofwine on racism, telling [info]godofwine that "you may have the privilege of not being harmed or offended by images of racism in fandom that someone else of minority status *does not have*" and further explains that she's coming from "that cultural context of having experienced/witnessed Racefail."

[info]godofwine is an Asian living in the US.

fail_fandom anon has a lot of fun.

So does rivier: If a POC doesn't find it racist, it's internalized racism! POC anon lays the smackdown on her: "It's really amusing to watch white folks tell us non-white folks what we can and cannot think, what is an is not acceptable, what is and is not racist."


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[info]waltraute
2010-10-20 04:39 am UTC (link)
I thought this exchange got at the most interesting thing at stake here. My uncharitable reading is that the whole thing is ultimately an argument about characterization and the_moonmoth's conclusion is "Fluff is always good, undesirable character traits disrupt my identifying with a character and they're just not canonical!" Given the great depths of characterization in Inception, lol.

Also, write didactically or you might be a bad person.

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[info]squeakytoy
2010-10-20 01:15 pm UTC (link)
Given the great depths of characterization in Inception, lol.

But they go deep! They go four levels deep! Wait, what? That's not characterisation?

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[info]lady_ganesh
2010-10-20 07:51 pm UTC (link)
Well, this is why dying is easy and comedy is hard. Once you touch on something people take as seriously/personally as race, there's the chance you're going to offend someone, even in a joke. I haven't read the fic beyond the excerpt, but I've certainly had people read situations in a way I didn't intend, and I think it's entirely possible the_moonmoth read this as 'Eames is being really racist here, and the author's just playing it for laughs, which I find offensive.'

But I also think people can honestly disagree with hir take without Aja having to come in and tell them how they're really supposed to be feeling.

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[info]waltraute
2010-10-20 07:55 pm UTC (link)
All that is true, but I was thinking especially of what the_moonmoth clarifies when asked directly about what she would find acceptable and what not.

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[info]coffee_mug
2010-10-21 12:02 am UTC (link)
Characterization? In my Inception? Well I never!

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[info]sorchar
2010-10-21 04:10 am UTC (link)
It's more likely than you think!

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