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come_love_sleep ([info]come_love_sleep) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2010-10-22 22:43:00


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Elizabeth Moon vs. Sense, Round Two
Continuing from where it was left off over on Unfunny Business, Elizabeth Moon's invite as Guest of Honor to Wiscon has been Officially Rescinded. Not by the concom; by their superiors, who announced this with a very short statement.

Comments, predictably, are rather full of fail. Venture hence fully understanding the risk to your blood pressure. Lots of the usual "PC brigade will RUINS THE WORLD!" bullshit.

Discussing this: Cat Valente, Nick Mamatas, and N. K. Jemisin. The ever-fiery Karnythia has some stuff to say about the con itself.

Ms. Moon is entirely silent.

ETA: Cyan_Aura was kind enough to provide mention, and Juliansinger to provide a link to Ms. Moon's really fairly snippy leaving of the birthday party; since her GoH status was rescinded, she's decided just not to play (rather than attending and facing real live human beings).


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[info]lady_jafaria
2010-10-23 03:43 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, the "she's just giving a feminist critique of extremist Muslims" defense doesn't work so well. I've SEEN feminist critiques of Islamic extremism. Moon's post was just bigoted fearmongering.

Apparently the defenders who want to paint themselves as so concerned for Muslim women are less concerned when it's a white woman hurting them.

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[info]phosfate
2010-10-23 04:47 pm UTC (link)
Apparently the defenders who want to paint themselves as so concerned for Muslim women are less concerned when it's a white woman hurting them.

I'm amazed when some of my fellow whities rant about banning the veil for Muslim women's good. Because no one woman would voluntarily wear one, or if she does, she's just brainwashed.

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[info]rosehiptea
2010-10-23 10:54 pm UTC (link)
And it never occurs to Muslim women to not veil unless helpful white women get involved!

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[info]catmoran
2010-10-23 10:59 pm UTC (link)
I hate that, I really do. It's infantalizing to assume that no women (especially women living under secular law) would choose to wear something that has cultural or religious importance to them.

I wonder what those same whities think of nuns who still wear veils?

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[info]ekaterinv
2010-10-23 10:59 pm UTC (link)
But female sexuality is supposed to be PUBLIC property (of men)! It's just horrific that those mean Muslims want it to be PRIVATE property (of one man)! (And the idea it could be the woman's own property is of course completely alien and dangerous.)

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[info]phosfate
2010-10-24 02:56 am UTC (link)
I do not think I would like it much if the ultra-wealthy women of the French Riviera decided that I should go topless because my swimsuit is oppressive.

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[info]purple_smurf
2010-10-24 05:36 am UTC (link)
I really like that analogy. I may borrow it, if that's okay.

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[info]phosfate
2010-10-25 04:25 pm UTC (link)
Groovy.

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