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sequinedlizard (![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif){kind=small} sequinedlizard) wrote in ![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/community.gif){kind=small} unfunny_fandom, |
For you, and for anyone who might be curious
Whoa... you have stepped in it here. Let's break it down:
"cisgender" -having a match between gender identity and the behavior or role considered appropriate for one's sex (so, no disconnect between the gender a person identifies as and the gender they'd be assigned by society based on their sex)
"transgender" - a person's gender identity does NOT match the behavior or roles considered appropriate for their sex (so there IS a disconnect between the gender a person identifies as and the gender they'd be assigned by society based on their sex
Some people who are transgendered undergo surgery to change their sex to align better with their gender identity. This would be transsexual. One may be transgendered without undergoing surgery to change one's sex.
Then there are people who are genderqueer, which is kind of a catch-all term for people who do not fall into a specific gender identity, regardless of their sex. I am an example - I am a cissexual female assigned at birth that does not gender identify as a woman. I generally use the term "agender," meaning I do not gender identify, as myself. My gender is not "ambiguous," it simply is not something I identify with.
As you can see from the above - we can use "cis" and "trans" to refer to EITHER sex or gender. I am cissexual, but I am not cisgendered. I am also not ambiguously gendered. There are transsexual individuals who identify as transsexual but cisgendered (i.e., they underwent surgery to change their sex, therefore there is no disconnect between what society perceives as appropriate for their sex and their gender identity anymore).
So, for pronouns. Yes, your friend Timm should have masculine pronouns used to identify him (don't bother with the "genetically female" disclaimer, it's both offensive and pointless) - he identifies as a man, he's a he. If he prefers to be called he, and that fact is known, I would consider it offensive to use gender neutral OR feminine pronouns to refer to him. If people DON'T KNOW his gender identity (which is common in online discussions), it is considerate.
Gender neutral pronouns work for people who DO NOT gender identify, AND for writing about people who's gender identity is NOT KNOWN. That's it - there's no pretentiousness involved.
So, you done fucked up. And you compounded the fuckup by not doing a search on terms like "cisgendered" and arguing from wrong assumptions, and generally flapping your ass in the breeze. Hopefully my explanation helped. Next time, if you don't know, apologize, consider yourself lucky you don't have to deal with these issues every day of your life, do some reading, and find a place to ask questions.
Whoa... you have stepped in it here. Let's break it down:
"cisgender" -having a match between gender identity and the behavior or role considered appropriate for one's sex (so, no disconnect between the gender a person identifies as and the gender they'd be assigned by society based on their sex)
"transgender" - a person's gender identity does NOT match the behavior or roles considered appropriate for their sex (so there IS a disconnect between the gender a person identifies as and the gender they'd be assigned by society based on their sex
Some people who are transgendered undergo surgery to change their sex to align better with their gender identity. This would be transsexual. One may be transgendered without undergoing surgery to change one's sex.
Then there are people who are genderqueer, which is kind of a catch-all term for people who do not fall into a specific gender identity, regardless of their sex. I am an example - I am a cissexual female assigned at birth that does not gender identify as a woman. I generally use the term "agender," meaning I do not gender identify, as myself. My gender is not "ambiguous," it simply is not something I identify with.
As you can see from the above - we can use "cis" and "trans" to refer to EITHER sex or gender. I am cissexual, but I am not cisgendered. I am also not ambiguously gendered. There are transsexual individuals who identify as transsexual but cisgendered (i.e., they underwent surgery to change their sex, therefore there is no disconnect between what society perceives as appropriate for their sex and their gender identity anymore).
So, for pronouns. Yes, your friend Timm should have masculine pronouns used to identify him (don't bother with the "genetically female" disclaimer, it's both offensive and pointless) - he identifies as a man, he's a he. If he prefers to be called he, and that fact is known, I would consider it offensive to use gender neutral OR feminine pronouns to refer to him. If people DON'T KNOW his gender identity (which is common in online discussions), it is considerate.
Gender neutral pronouns work for people who DO NOT gender identify, AND for writing about people who's gender identity is NOT KNOWN. That's it - there's no pretentiousness involved.
So, you done fucked up. And you compounded the fuckup by not doing a search on terms like "cisgendered" and arguing from wrong assumptions, and generally flapping your ass in the breeze. Hopefully my explanation helped. Next time, if you don't know, apologize, consider yourself lucky you don't have to deal with these issues every day of your life, do some reading, and find a place to ask questions.
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