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ruslan ([info]ruslan) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2010-12-28 21:20:00


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Fail! Fail everywhere!
Alisa Valdes-Rodriguez, the author of The Dirty Girls Social Club, discusses how Hollywood turned her Afro-Colombian-American character, a straight-laced and squeaky-clean monogamous lesbian, into a sexed-up cheating bisexual with no noticeable African ancestry. (Her Birkenstocky partner? Nowhere to be seen.) Why?


“We had to make her bisexual because the lesbian story line isn’t fresh anymore,” Lynnette told me. (By that standard, we ought to make all straight characters bisexual too, no?) “And, let’s face it,” she said snarkily, “no one trusts a bisexual.”


Wowwww.

In fact, EVERYBODY in the adaptation has been seriously sexed up regardless of the characters' actual, you know, personalities and beliefs and book-verse behavior. (Except for the overweight character, of course, when she acts sexual it's just a fat joke.) And the diversity of the Hispanic population has been completely bled out of the script.

ETA: The fail is coming from all directions! The author's stance on some of this is pretty slut-shaming, and then there's this, where she comes out as bisexual in an email interview with AfterEllen. And then gets offended when mentioned as bi on her Wikipedia page and retracts it, claiming to identify as straight. (Then there's a weird blog post she made entitled Under Attack By Lesbians, claiming that she only tried to retract her comments because hard-right Cuban exiles were making attempts on her life. But she baleeted it and it's probably lost to us now.) Is she bi? Straight? Questioning? Who knows?

She also did the same thing again, claiming to have bipolar disorder after David Foster Wallace's suicide and then retracting it. The David Shankbone from the AfterEllen interview calls her on her bullshit, to which she, well:

Alisa took such exception to these statements, that in response she wrote this about me (as if I wrote it myself):

You are a tremendous fucking bitch, and I suck donkey dicks with communist straws. I was hired by the Cuban government to “fix” your wiki page, but they asked that I never tell you this. Oopsies! I have to remember not to promise Fidel anything when I’m high on peyote. My bad.

Strange times on Wikipedia, indeed.


I have no idea what's going on anymore. *makes popcorn*


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[info]sepiamagpie
2010-12-28 11:31 pm UTC (link)
Jesus. The main character in my hobby book is pretty much the same as that (EXCEPT Ethiopian origin, not Columbian. And has a sword). So this is like looking at a 'and then they heard the scrape scrape scrape of his hook on the door' story, but with fiction and not carsex teenagers.

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[info]khym_chanur
2010-12-28 11:45 pm UTC (link)
So this is like looking at a 'and then they heard the scrape scrape scrape of his hook on the door' story, but with fiction and not carsex teenagers.

Now I'm imagining a story about anthropomorphized stories telling each other urban legends about Adaptations Gone Horribly Wrong.

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(no subject) - [info]iamnotyourmuse, 2010-12-29 01:50 am UTC
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[info]chikane
2010-12-28 11:46 pm UTC (link)
Ah, yay, biphobia.
Ah, yay, slut shaming.
Ah, yay, the usual fear of lesbians who *gasp* dare not to want to sleep with men.

They're all bad. Yes, bashing monogamous lesbians is, too.

Except for the overweight character, of course, when she acts sexual it's just a fat joke

Was the movie trying to be offensive?

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[info]kita0610
2010-12-28 11:51 pm UTC (link)
Ah, dammit. Now I need a nobody trusts a bisexual icon. Possibly with Jack Harkness on it.

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[info]sepiamagpie
2010-12-29 12:05 am UTC (link)
never trust a bisexual when sex is on the line?

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[info]ahiru
2010-12-29 02:53 am UTC (link)
Photobucket

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[info]tachikoma01
2010-12-29 12:35 am UTC (link)
To me, it seems like the producer-writer had already WRITTEN a script for "Sexy Sororoity Sex Stoners: The Show" and got turned down by every television studio in the area for having the *genuinely* tired and unoriginal plot.

And instead of going to the nearest porn studio with their 'amazing writing', they sat on a street corner, trying to figure out how they were going to get their script made.

And then a light bulb went off and one said to the other "HEY! What if we attach the title and character names of an existing, successful property about young women to our script and sell it as an adaptation?"

Then the other turned to the first and said "My friend, you are a GENIUS!"

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[info]mareen
2010-12-30 12:45 pm UTC (link)
I think it's possible the studio realised there was a US remake of "Skins" coming up and are now trying to do their own version, but at college this time. Then they did what you said above.

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[info]spacelogic
2010-12-29 12:36 am UTC (link)
On the plus side, I now kind of want to read this book. And by "read" I mean "buy just to spite the racist/biphobic TV adaptation people". But it also sounds interesting.

The words "(live action) film adaptation" fill me with terror these days. I'm still cringing over the TV adaptation that's supposedly in the works for Laurence Yep's The Tiger's Apprentice, and I read about that weeks ago and know it has a snowball's chance in hell of actually making it through the production process. It's sad because I'm know the medium can be well used in retelling stories, and I've even seen a few cases where it was, but I'm so used to the other extreme now....

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[info]the_seventh_l
2010-12-29 08:25 pm UTC (link)
Woah woah, they're adapting The Tiger's Apprentice? I LOVE THAT SERIES OMG ♥

Oh . . . they're gonna ruin it, aren't they? ;____; BRB, crying over my childhood.

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[info]shinga
2010-12-29 12:52 am UTC (link)
Urge to punch people... rising...

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[info]amadi
2010-12-29 01:37 am UTC (link)
The good news from Alisa on Twitter late last night is that her allies inside the network are telling her that NBC hates the script.

It's a weird, sad time as a writer to be overjoyed that the script produced from your bestselling novel is the subject of loathing.

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[info]duraniedrama
2010-12-29 02:21 pm UTC (link)
Given what's been done to the book so far, I think she's probably at a point where she's praying the thing will die in development. Which, again, is a strange prayer for a writer to have, but there you are.

Moral of the story--if somebody offers to adapt your book for television, get every single damn thing in writing instead of assuming that because the nice people said they'd do something over the phone that they'll actually do it.

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[info]sorchar
2010-12-29 01:40 am UTC (link)
I think I just found the next book I'm gonna put on my new Kindle, if it's available in that format. If not, then it's off to the bookstore.

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(no subject) - [info]ruslan, 2010-12-29 01:43 am UTC

[info]cmdr_zoom
2010-12-29 01:42 am UTC (link)
... see icon.

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[info]chaimonkey
2010-12-29 01:43 am UTC (link)
At this point, why are they even bothering to call it an adaptation anymore? It's practically a new film!

Aside - *slaps on "can't be trusted" badge*

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(no subject) - [info]thebratqueen, 2010-12-29 03:21 am UTC

[info]persona
2010-12-29 01:59 am UTC (link)
Well, this is a giant pile of fail, although it's not surprising (to me, anyway) that the writers/directors would do what they did. If someone screwed up my characters as they have I would be pretty damn pissed to put it mildly, especially given the blatant racism and sexism running wild throughout the changes.

That said, though, some of what the author is saying bothers me, too. WTF with the slut shaming in her second post? While her anger that her character have all been turned into hyperseuxalised stereotypes is extremely justified, it seems to me that the author holds some pretty misogynistic attitudes herself (Use of 'whore' as derogatory? Really?). I'm disappointed.

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[info]sandglass
2010-12-29 02:17 am UTC (link)
“And, let’s face it,” she said snarkily, “no one trusts a bisexual.”

BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THEY'RE ALWAYS DEPICTED YOU STUPID NOOB!

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(no subject) - [info]yattara, 2010-12-29 11:55 am UTC
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[info]ekaterinv
2010-12-29 03:48 am UTC (link)
no one trusts a bisexual

Hi, I'm no one. Shall we have a running tally of how many "no ones" are here?

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[info]khym_chanur
2010-12-29 03:55 am UTC (link)
From the Shankbone blogpost:
Valdes was a writer for The Los Angeles Times, until she tendered a letter of resignation that became known in L.A. journalism circles as exemplary of career self-destruction. According to Catherine Seipp:
Among the letter’s complaints: The Times was guilty of attempted genocide for using the term “Latino” to describe what Valdes-Rodriguez insisted are really Native Americans, and that, furthermore, this kind of genocide is worse than “old-fashioned murder and relocation efforts.” One memorable grievance was that Valdes-Rodriguez’s editors hadn’t allowed her to publish a commentary comparing the animated children’s film The Road to Eldorado, set during the Spanish exploration of the New World, to the Holocaust, even though “by some estimates the Spaniards killed 10 times more people than the Nazis did.”
O_o

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[info]moonjaguar
2010-12-29 04:19 am UTC (link)
Marriage cancels out bisexuality? *scratches head*

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[info]monty
2010-12-29 06:05 am UTC (link)
This thing is a rabbit hole of wank.

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[info]gertie_flirty
2010-12-29 01:35 pm UTC (link)
*raises the shields*

The wank . . . it's coming from all sides, captain! I don't know how long I can hold 'em off! Ach! Our only defense is popcorn!

RAISE THE POPCORN LEVELS TO 100%!

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(no subject) - [info]cyan_aura, 2010-12-30 09:17 am UTC

[info]duraniedrama
2010-12-30 10:50 pm UTC (link)
She also offers her own version of how she'd like the pilot to go.

Including such gems as:

Y’all’s stone-ass crazy. Now if you excuse me, I don’t have time for any more of this borke-English-just-off-the-boat-tostones-y-chicharrones-brained stupid, okay?

. . . yeah.

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(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2010-12-31 01:33 am UTC
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[info]staroverthebay
2010-12-31 05:50 am UTC (link)
Bisexuals don't exist, right? So how can anybody trust them?


... But seriously, what the goddamned fuck.

Lesbians are only hot if they aren't actually lesbians, if they sleep with men occasionally, because sex just isn't sex if there's no penis involved.

God I hate the entertainment industry.

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