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Bethan ([info]kumquat_of_doom) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2010-12-31 16:15:00


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Marvel Comics Creator Wank! Get your creator wank here!
All right, I warn ahead of time that I came to this wank late, and the only posts I've found on the subject have been somewhat ... one-sided, shall we say. I was a little unsure as to whether this could make it over on [info]fandom_wank, so followed the 'When in doubt' rule.

(Also, forgive the attention-whoring, but I'm ill and 2010 has decided to give my arse a few parting kicks on the way out. Distract meeeeee.)

Background: Lots and lots of Spider-man fans are, shall we say, quite unhappy about the events of Brand New Day and since, where Peter Parker gave up his life with wife Mary Jane (and all his memories of her) in a deal with Mephisto to save Aunt May's life. The whole plot was almost certainly an act of Editorial Intervention, since the guy in charge at Marvel, Joe Quesada, is well-known as hating Mary Jane and her relationship with Spidey. I don't read the Spider-man comics, but by all accounts the writing since this has not improved things a jot.

Secondary background: [info]box_in_the_box is well known for constant whining about what he refers to as NuSpidey. YMMV on how much of it is justified, but you cannot deny that that's a loooot of complaining.

So, on with the show!
The Beat, a popular comics blog, makes an entry which calls out a message board attack on Dan Slott, Amazing Spider-Man's current writer, as a 'Jerk of the world'. To recap, Slott responded to seeing one fan's accusation of hackery with a ... somewhat disproportionate rant. Just a little.

Dan Slott, you see, spends perhaps a little bit too much time on the internet. But hey, the guy says he's sick and overworked, maybe that was just a one-off, right?

Apparently not.

[info]bitemetechie makes brief reference to the previous debacle on her LJ... only to have Slott himself show up in the comments.

Since the guy showed up to pick a fight in a stranger's LJ, [info]neo_prodigy takes the opportunity to call out Slott for racist writing, with particular regard to the Norah Winters character, about which fans have been complaining for some time now...

And apparently manages to drive Slott off LJ in one comment.

Slott may be down, but he's not out! He takes to Twitter with his grievances, as he has done before:

"You make a living on writing a racist character who denigrates people of color and you have the fucking gall to —" Mark the date, 12/15/10, that's the point I hit the richest vein of Internet-Crazy. Someone I've never addressed or talked to on the web, addressing me for working on Spider-Man 'cause he's a "racist character?" What now? OK ... cross LJ off from places to "visit." Crazy, please stay in that corner. :)


You might think that would be it ... but you'd be wrong.

Slott pokes his head above the parapet once again, in response to a later post by [info]neo_prodigy over at Ars Marginal, [info]neo_prodigy's other blogging site.

In response, [info]neo_prodigy and [info]afro_dyte/RVCBard attempt to ban Slott and delete his comments, but the guy just keeps coming back! For bonus: witness Slott's flailing about his constitutional rights! Flail, Slott! Flail!

[info]box_in_the_box (as K-Box, unless I am very much mistaken) keeps baiting the guy, but you know what? In this case, I can't entirely blame him.

By way of conclusion, Ars Marginal posts another entry outlining ALL of Slott's known bullshit, both professional and extremely unprofessional.

The end?

Maybe not ... since if [info]box_in_the_box is to be believed, we have sockpuppetry!

PROFESSIONAL sockpuppetry.

Seriously, if it weren't for the hideous racism, this would be an amazing [info]fandom_wank post.


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This is the wank that never ends...
[info]galateus
2010-12-31 07:10 pm UTC (link)
He's still going? And I thought all the wank had already blown over by the time it hit NoScans. (yaseen101 still hasn't figured out how to actually post to fandom_wank yet, apparently. Just as well really, what with all the racism.)

And that tweet has got to be one of the most pathetic quote-mines I've ever seen. Apparently under that mask, Spider-Man's secret identity is Nora Roberts. Jameson needs to write that exposé stat.

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^ Er, Nora Winters, I mean
[info]galateus
2010-12-31 07:14 pm UTC (link)
I really shouldn't post without sleep.

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Re: ^ Er, Nora Winters, I mean
[info]kumquat_of_doom
2010-12-31 07:20 pm UTC (link)
Nora Roberts would make an amazing Spider-Man, though. XD

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Re: ^ Er, Nora Winters, I mean - [info]dorothy1901, 2011-01-01 01:04 am UTC
Re: ^ Er, Nora Winters, I mean - [info]kumquat_of_doom, 2011-01-01 03:47 am UTC

[info]tehrin
2010-12-31 07:25 pm UTC (link)
I thought this was going to be musical wank and I am slightly disappointed.

Here's a link to box_in_the_box's past wankery. I know neo_prodigy's been in a wank report somewhere, but I can't remember where at the moment.

OMG! I said “FUCK”! How will the world go on? That’s 1 less “fuck” for Tieri, Ellis, Bendis, and a zillion other comic creators to say! :-O

It’s my own fault for not saying “fuck” enough. I need to dilute it. Here: fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuckity-fuck-fuck-fuck.

Fuck, fuck, fuck fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, FUUUUUUCK. — Seriously, people, that’s how Frank Tieri says “Good Morning.”


FUCK!

I'm glad I don't read any Marvel titles currently.

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[info]queencallipygos
2010-12-31 07:35 pm UTC (link)
I thought this was going to be musical wank and I am slightly disappointed.

I could do something about that, but it would REALLY be one-sided -- what you have there, from what I've seen, are maybe two people who've said "I've seen it and it's worth the hype" and then EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD saying some variant of "Julie Taymor/Bono/The Edge need to stop this or OSHA/Actors Equity/The NYC DA's office needs to make them." Is it still a wank if public opinion is near-universal?

(I actually participated; I've been a U2 fan for nearly 20 years, but it's only now that I've written to them -- but I didn't write as a fan, I wrote as a theater professional urging them both "dudes, seriously, you need to pull the plug on this.")

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[info]tehrin
2010-12-31 07:42 pm UTC (link)
There's been what? Four accidents now and the lead actress just quit?

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(no subject) - [info]cygnia, 2010-12-31 08:34 pm UTC

[info]monty
2010-12-31 09:13 pm UTC (link)
I think it'll turn into a wank once they pull the plug and the public finger-pointing starts. Until then, it's just a spectacle.

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[info]cleolinda
2010-12-31 10:06 pm UTC (link)
I did have someone really, ah, passionate show up on my journal and teal-deer a bit. My favorite part was when she insisted that actors want to die for their art, and a theater professional showed up and said, "No, I am pretty sure we do not want to die for Spider-Man."

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(no subject) - [info]dorothy1901, 2011-01-01 01:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jaseroque, 2011-01-01 07:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jaseroque, 2011-01-01 07:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2011-01-01 06:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]risha, 2011-01-01 07:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]thoms, 2011-01-02 07:44 am UTC

[info]spawn_of_kong
2010-12-31 10:42 pm UTC (link)
I feel kinda bad that the show's gone south as much as it has, since I normally like Julie Taymor.

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[info]felinephoenix
2011-01-01 01:45 am UTC (link)
Is it still a wank if public opinion is near-universal?

I assume that's why we haven't had more wank about BND, almost everyone seems to agree it's terrible.

Oh wait we were talking about the musical. My bad. That's pretty terrible too.

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(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2011-01-02 02:33 am UTC

[info]ninwhore
2010-12-31 09:36 pm UTC (link)
Marvel is so disappointing to me right now. All the Spider-Man stuff and what they've done to Deadpool... I'm sure some people like what's happening in canon but it all makes me go ): If it wasn't for Daken I probably wouldn't really be reading any Marvel.

I'll just stick to DC and the Rainbow Lanterns for now.

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[info]cat_mcdougall
2011-01-01 12:09 am UTC (link)
God, what they're doing to Jubilee, and Utopia and... JUST ARGH. M-Day was a damned farce. I refuse to admit it happened.

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[info]ninwhore
2011-01-01 05:05 am UTC (link)
OH.. Right. The vampires. Forgot about that madness. I think I blocked it out due to failure.

BUT to be fair I did leave out one other awesome title: Young Avengers- Children's Crusade. But if not for them and Daken I would have dropped Marvel and stuck with just my fond memories.

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[info]hallidae
2011-01-01 08:36 am UTC (link)
Between X-Men and Iron Man, any good feelings I've had about Matt Fraction's previous works have all choked and died. And I refuse to talk about M-Day, period, because that way lies incoherent shrieking.

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[info]rubymellon
2010-12-31 09:42 pm UTC (link)
it's too much to hope for Slott and K-Box's combined raeg to make them both spontaneously combust, isn't it?

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[info]gertie_flirty
2010-12-31 11:15 pm UTC (link)
Damn, first Patton Oswalt makes me rage and now Slott. All my nerd heroes are letting me down, man. What is going on this week?

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[info]kumquat_of_doom
2011-01-01 02:52 am UTC (link)
What did Patton Oswalt do?

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[info]evilsqueakers
2011-01-01 09:47 am UTC (link)
Patton wrote this basic "get the fuck off my lawn you mouth-breathers for taking my Geek away." Or that was my assumption with the amount of whining.

Here.

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(no subject) - [info]bienegold, 2011-01-01 11:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2011-01-01 11:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kumquat_of_doom, 2011-01-01 04:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]blue_penguin, 2011-01-01 05:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2011-01-01 07:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2011-01-02 03:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]felinephoenix, 2011-01-01 07:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2011-01-01 07:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]felinephoenix, 2011-01-01 07:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2011-01-01 09:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]felinephoenix, 2011-01-01 09:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2011-01-01 09:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2011-01-01 10:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2011-01-01 10:44 pm UTC

[info]alexa
2010-12-31 11:49 pm UTC (link)
Oh, a personal favorite of mine: when people make statements to the effect of free speech means I get to say whatever, whenever, wherever I want! Not quite how it works, dude.

Though, to be fair: I don't think they can reasonably forbid him to talk about or link their blog, especially if they're posting about him.

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[info]darksumomo
2011-01-01 01:34 am UTC (link)
I've been wondering how long it would take for this to get here.

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reposted for clarity
[info]felinephoenix
2011-01-01 02:02 am UTC (link)
I have two things to say:

1. I hate everything about Norah Winters and her oh so "funny" hipster racism.

2. Kudos to Bitemetechie for being the better woman in that argument. Shame her efforts were wasted on Slott. I can understand his initial reaction, sure, but this is far from the first time he's unjustifiably blown up on fans for critiquing his work. It's almost like he's a robot running on butthurt, scouring the message boards for complaints.

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Re: reposted for clarity
[info]hallidae
2011-01-01 08:39 am UTC (link)
I hate everything about Norah Winters and her oh so "funny" hipster racism.

Seconded so damn hard. She repelled me at the first "I'm not racist, I hate everybody!" The fact that she continued to throw out copious "ironic" racist jokes after that cemented the loathing.

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Re: reposted for clarity
[info]kosaginolegion
2011-01-01 04:40 pm UTC (link)
Is the writer trying to make a female version of Sam Vimes? If so, it sounds like he's doing it wrong.

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Re: reposted for clarity - [info]hallidae, 2011-01-01 06:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]felinephoenix, 2011-01-01 09:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kosaginolegion, 2011-01-01 09:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]felinephoenix, 2011-01-02 03:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2011-01-02 02:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]felinephoenix, 2011-01-02 03:39 am UTC

[info]jaythenerdkid
2011-01-01 02:05 am UTC (link)
Wow, a wank where [info]neo_prodigy comes out looking good?

I guess there's a first time for everything.

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[info]kumquat_of_doom
2011-01-01 02:54 am UTC (link)
I haven't been much in comics fandom since the original Scans Daily went under... what's [info]neo_prodigy's track record?

*chinhands* Storyplz?

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(no subject) - [info]felinephoenix, 2011-01-01 09:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2011-01-01 04:23 am UTC
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