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Sep (lord of all I survey) ([info]sepiamagpie) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2011-01-01 21:21:00


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Twitter rant: Read bottom to top
To begin with, a sock twitter account for Laura Ingalls Wilder (the writer of the Little House On The Prairie books) was giving out the tweets of her family for New Year's.

Here's the one for her Ma:

HalfPintIngalls Laura Ingalls Wilder:

Ma's resolutions: knit more; be less racist.

Well... anyway, a nineteen tweet rant from another user followed. It's sort of epic.


troposphere
troposphr troposphere
:



@HalfPintIngalls @sippey 'Be less racist'? That's what I call a cheap, defamatory shot. I read those books 100s of times, and

the only racism one can take away is whatever pre-existed in your own racist, bigoted head,

wherein you ascribe to an individual you've never met character traits based on nothing other than their skin color.

'Ma resolves to be less racist.' HAHAHA, that's teh funny.

If you'd actually read the books you would know that a black doctor treated them when they were all sick; that they

had never seen a black person before. You're incapable of reading any text & not injecting your defamatory illogic

whether or not the text in any way supports it. Bcs you were never college-educated, only college-indoctrinated

and taught to label all whites as racist and evil, and that the Indians/'First Nations'/Native Americans never went

around scalping one another, because you were brainwashed into believing any person of color is morally superior

You know who needs to make a new years resolution to be less racist? YOU do.

You don't understand, and therefore mock, people who actually apprehend God (the REAL God, not your crappy morally

relativistic 1, which you actually created in YOUR own image, whether they lived a century or two ago, a millennia

or 2 or 4 ago, or are one of your own contemporaries. In this regard you are hopelessly ignorant and blind; having

no idea of why you are even here in the first place. Blind, misled, and believing only in your psychobabble B.S.

What else have you been "taught"? To smear & denigrate the WASP pioneers/founders who made this country

the greatest nation in the history of mankind -- actually, they were only instruments of GOD, which you do not &

will never comprehend, because you don't know God and in fact have been taught to be actively hostile towards Him.

People like you, who have no comprehension of the what or why of the most basic principles of what this country is

about are simply tools, useful idiots, in the hands of those who seek to destroy America -- the REAL America, not

the bastardized, self-hating, self-loathing, apologetic, Marxist/Fascist false Obamatopia you seek to compel your

fellow citizens into climbing aboard that space-shuttle-disaster-in-the-making piece of crap Marxist state where

you believe there will be no more HAHA-Racist-HAHA Ma's -- only sub-human fascist slave-drones like yourselves.



(please note, the reason that it's formatted like this is because it was a series of nineteen tweets, which can only be 140 characters in length and each time they had to include the name of the people they were addressing)

And what does our dear Laura Ingalls Wilder have to say?

Laura Ingalls Wilder
HalfPintIngalls Laura Ingalls Wilder
:


@troposphr You really ought to have Dr. Tann look at that muskrat bite because you're foaming at the mouth.

And that's that.

I think it's hilarious, in the same way I think watching my cat totally lose it on a paper crane is hilarious, but the topic of racism and racism in the Little House books as potential for discussion is definitely unfunny, so I put it here.


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[info]amadi
2011-01-04 05:40 am UTC (link)
And were I a parent of a ten year old whose teacher thought that a story as filled with deceit and violence as Macbeth was appropriate to be the class's play, I'd tear the school down around people's ears. Ten year olds miming murder? We're meant to be okay with that?

That is not okay.

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[info]platedlizard
2011-01-04 07:39 am UTC (link)
lolwut

If my kid wanted to be in Macbeth at age ten, I'd let them. Can never start them too young on Shakespeare IMO. Most kids would probably prefer Midsummer's Night Dream, but if the kiddo wanted to play Lady or Lord Macbeth the more power to them.

I hope you never give your kid a watergun. They might 'mime murder' with one after all.

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[info]ekaterinv
2011-01-04 07:44 am UTC (link)
Midsummer Night's Dream is incredibly sexual! You bad bad person you!

(I had it memorized at age 10. I was fascinated with magic, Shakespeare and sex at that age. It was PERFECT.)

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[info]platedlizard
2011-01-04 07:48 am UTC (link)
I was Peter Quince in sixth grade. It was loads of fun.

And dude, in that play Oberon totally drugs Titania to get even with her. He makes her fall in love with a guy who had an ass's head. It's one step above a date-rape drug. THINK OF THE CHILDREN

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(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2011-01-04 07:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]platedlizard, 2011-01-04 07:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2011-01-04 08:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]platedlizard, 2011-01-04 08:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]snarkhunter, 2011-01-04 08:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sandglass, 2011-01-04 09:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2011-01-04 10:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sandglass, 2011-01-04 10:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2011-01-04 10:35 pm UTC

[info]tehrin
2011-01-04 10:01 am UTC (link)
Hermia/Helena OTP! I read it on my own when I was 12 and shipped it before I knew what shipping was. Their love interests bored me.

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(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2011-01-04 10:25 am UTC

[info]missdaisy
2011-01-04 05:11 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, my girls did scaled down version of Shakespeare in drama camp, including Macbeth. Six year old make adorable marching forests :) I could go on and on about the arts and what they've done for the people we know and our children but suffice to say...expose them and help them sort it out is my general position.

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[info]sneer
2011-01-05 07:44 pm UTC (link)
And hey, it could have been worse than Macbeth--they could have done Equus like this second grade-class! :D

spoiler for amadi's benefit: no of course they didn't really, it's the fucking Onion, get off your fainting couch and unclutch your pearls

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[info]blue_penguin
2011-01-05 07:59 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, my parents actively encourage pacifism, never let any of us have toy weapons, didn't/don't allow their kids to watch any number of movies that they believe to be too violent... and my ten-year-old brother is still all about "miming murder", which I think goes to show that this stuff doesn't necessarily come from adults.

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[info]ekaterinv
2011-01-04 07:43 am UTC (link)
I read all of Shakespeare's major plays before I was 10. I read lots of horrifically violent fairy tales before that.

I think you're drastically underestimating the capabilities of children. It's entirely possible to read The Secret Garden and books like it, as a child, and separate the parts that are bad stuff from the past, from the parts that are bad stuff we still grapple with today, from the parts that are good. I didn't have the tools of deconstruction and literary theory when I read them, but I still was able to think about how they portrayed different groups of people, gender roles, etc., and come to my own conclusions, since I was lucky enough to have a large number of different books to read, which helped me develop critical thinking skills, imagination and empathy.

I would even argue that it's necessary to read things like that in order to gain any view of history and people, and the fact that the world changes. Removing every book from the shelves that doesn't line up with modern mores AND that doesn't have problematic content would leave kids with very slim pickings indeed. Also, I don't trust people in power who want to keep reading material away from children.

Ten year olds miming murder? We're meant to be okay with that?

...yes? It's not like Macbeth is a mere game of cops and robbers; it has the message that murder is wrong. It's a very simple play, really. Ten year olds are entirely capable of separating pretend from real and of thinking about things on many complex levels.

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[info]snarkhunter
2011-01-04 07:57 am UTC (link)
Thank you. I feel like you've said what I was trying to get at, but my brain is too addled to make sense of it all.

I had no idea that my gifted class was trying to brainwash us into playing killers, as opposed to introducing us to one of the English language's great writers.

I don't trust people in power who want to keep reading material away from children.

THIS.

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[info]ms_treesap
2011-01-06 03:00 am UTC (link)
I read all of Shakespeare when I was four, in the original Klingon.

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[info]snarkhunter
2011-01-04 08:00 am UTC (link)
Oddly, our parents thought it was pretty cool, and they attended the performances.

I played Lady Macbeth. It was a terrific experience.

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[info]platedlizard
2011-01-04 08:10 am UTC (link)
Oh, be honest here. You've got a couple bodies hidden in the basement, don't you. Playing Lady Macbeth totally turned you into a sereal killer. Totally.

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[info]snarkhunter
2011-01-04 08:18 am UTC (link)
Oh, damn. You caught me. You know I'm coming for you now, right?

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(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2011-01-04 05:41 pm UTC

[info]tehrin
2011-01-04 10:05 am UTC (link)
STICK YOU TO THE STICKING PLACE!

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[info]witty
2011-01-05 02:10 am UTC (link)
I was Marc Antony in Julius Caesar at age 11, so I was FIRMLY against murder. Except that the murderers got to have spring-handled knives (which were day-glow colors; the prop budget was slim) and everybody loved playing with them. Mostly to stab each other with.

See what a rent the envious Casca made! I am pretty sure I've never read the play since age 11, and I still remember most of my soliloquy.

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[info]phosfate
2011-01-04 02:05 pm UTC (link)
Destroying a school to protect the children from the books inside is totally heroic.

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[info]anonyrat
2011-01-04 04:12 pm UTC (link)
Hahaha, oh wow.

Really? REALLY? Do you even remember what being ten years old was like?

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[info]tez
2011-01-04 06:31 pm UTC (link)
Gee, I don't insult my daughter's intelligence by threatening to tear the school down if someone hands her a book that involves deceit and murder...oh wait, I do that on my own already. Fascinatingly, she's fully capable of comprehending what's right and what's wrong and is able to separate fiction from reality.

Oh, and she's eight.

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[info]theorclair
2011-01-04 11:22 pm UTC (link)
I was ten when I first read Huckleberry Finn. I loved it then as much as I do now. I missed some of the subtler satire in it, but I did get that the message was that Huck realizes Jim is a human being just like him - which plenty of anti-slavery advocates at the time the book was set didn't think.

And I wasn't any less shocked when I switched schools and on the third day at the new school a girl told me that the reason she was so screwed up was that she had previously gone to a school with lots of black people in it. OF course, she didn't say "black people", she instead used a word that I saw all the time in Huck Finn.

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[info]tehrin
2011-01-05 01:03 am UTC (link)
Ten year olds miming murder? We're meant to be okay with that?

They already do that when they play video games.

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[info]evilsqueakers
2011-01-05 09:21 am UTC (link)
Ten year olds miming murder? We're meant to be okay with that?

Excuse me. I was the ten-year-old that was reading classics because I had run out of BSC and SVH books by that point. Oh, wait. No. There were problems with those books, too. Jessica's sociopathy, Elizabeth's passiveness on most things, Lila's almost rape, death of most of Jessica's boyfriends, drugs, sex, rock-and-roll. Again, I had read a lot of those by 10. I had also read the Little House books, up to her personal letters, along with whatever was on the classics shelf that looked interesting like Anne of Green Gables, Jane Eyre, and several Jane Austen books.

And quite frankly, I do not appreciate this idea that a child must be coddled, treated as no more than a mindless zombie attached to only parental/societal ideals. I was reading before six. On my own. Heck, I used to recite Psalms to my godmoms before I was 6, without having heard them before, because I had reading skills and I loved books that challenged me. To this day, on an average month, I can read 10 books without pause. I'd say that reading those classics didn't brain damage me and helped me on the ACT in high school so that I was half-asleep and scored 28/36 without trying. I knew those words from my childhood, and had processed them by reading them on my own, without assignment. At 29, it's helped me all my life.

My librarians in elementary school knew I was about four grades above the rest of my classmates and would point out the classics in order to give me something to do when I was done with my assignments early on in the day and needed something to keep myself occupied and out of trouble. Clever children are hell in a classroom when bored. I had a lot of straight faces in kindergarten because I talked alot since I was finished and I'd read all the books in the classroom library.

God save any child that must be saved from reflections of past ideals that are still mostly relevant today. You know, in case the kids, want to shape their own views and understand why a friend might be upset over a word tossed at them without needing a For Dummies Junior book attached. People die every day. Why is it wrong to point that out, not look down on the ickle children, and let them make their own decisions?

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[info]sneer
2011-01-05 05:12 pm UTC (link)
Ten year olds performing a play that beats you over the head and face with the message that MURDER IS BAD, M'KAY? Totally okay with that.

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[info]chash
2011-01-05 09:01 pm UTC (link)
We did Macbeth for our fourth grade play. I was Duncan! I was really excited because I got to die and wear armor. It was awesome.

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[info]ms_treesap
2011-01-06 02:59 am UTC (link)
Well, considering what I'd lived through and known by the age of ten? Hell yes I'm ok with that.(It wasn't as bad as many, and I don't want to talk about it here). I agreed with your points until now, but this comment just makes you sound like a patronising n00b to humanity. Oh, and fuck you.

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