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sistercoyote ([info]sistercoyote) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2011-01-21 08:20:00


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Sometimes, there are no words.
[info]_dahne_ writes a screed about how being "PC" has gone too far.

I don't even know what to say about this, other than someone needs to have their privilege checked. Badly. (Except, of course, that "Privilege, like 'troll' or 'fail' can now mean whatever we want it to mean, so my little statement there is apparently OPPRESHUN of her truth. Or something.)

I count sexism, ablism, heterocentrism, and I'm pretty sure racism in this one sentence alone:
The male side of fandom runs around calling each other niggerfaggots while the female side has earnest ten-page debates on whether calling something crazy is ablist.
(Emphasis hers)

Because the boys doing that is totes okay, y'all, and the girls should be doing the same thing. And men never, ever talk about whether what they're saying is hurtful to other people or not, 'cause that's girly stuff. (Hey, wankaboys, come and sit in the invisible corner with us bisexuals, English majors, and ampersands.)

And then there's this:
Like the idea of "tone argument." At its core, this makes sense; it's meant to address the idea that abused classes of people shouldn't have to be deferential to their abusers in order to be listened to.

In practice, what it means is, "I'm allowed to be an asshole as long as I'm really, really sure I'm right."

I just...I can't. I mean, the tools of the master will never tear down the master's house, but come on. By refusing to accept the tenets of the tone argument, we're bullying the people in power?

Whut?

And both examples are from the first seven paragraphs of her little screed. There's also kind of a priceless gem in there about Fandom_Wank being a "prime vector" for "too much" political correctness.

And I think the worst bit is (as far as I could tell before the comments were pushing me to the ragey point) she's not getting any disagreement.

I would love to be able to write a thoughtful rebuttal that might be as widespread in fandom as this one's (apparently) getting, but I'm afraid my brain keeps hanging up on What Is This I Don't Even.

ETA: [info]t_boy found swordygardner's response which is a breath of fresh air in amongst all that fail. ETA 2: In fact, pretty much all of page 2 of the comments (which is about the point she turned off anon commenting, I'll bet you), is pretty awesome.


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[info]hallidae
2011-01-22 12:15 am UTC (link)
See, I started avoiding movie posts on LJ way early in the game (mostly due to dv8nation), because I knew there'd be assholery, which is how I didn't know she was one of the assholes. And someone brought up fandomsecrets in the post about this over on sf_d, so I went to look over some of the threads on -isms there, and God, she is just all over the place with fail. Which is really making me feel like an idiot now for not seeing it sooner. I just... wasn't in the right places to cross it, I guess.

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[info]eleutheria
2011-01-22 01:31 am UTC (link)
Oho, someone else sees dv8nation as an asshole? Thank you!

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[info]hallidae
2011-01-22 01:36 am UTC (link)
When I got the little firefox addon that imitates LJ notes, his name was the first on the list with "OBTUSE DOUCHEBAG ABOUT *EVERYTHING*-ISM, DO NOT ENGAGE."

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[info]dark_puck
2011-01-22 02:42 am UTC (link)
My own note for dv8nation is "Wanker, most high."

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[info]re_weird
2011-01-22 02:45 am UTC (link)
Would you mind sharing the name of that addon? I'm not sure I can renew my paid account when it comes up, unfortunately.

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[info]hallidae
2011-01-22 02:56 am UTC (link)
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/livejournal-addons/ This is the one I use. It's kind of massive and designed for multiple functions, though, so you might wanna look for something a little more streamlined.

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[info]agent_hyatt
2011-01-22 03:56 am UTC (link)
He once agreed with me. I was very tempted to reply with "Your approval fills me with shame", and only didn't because I had sworn to never, ever reply to him again.

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[info]chibikaijuu
2011-01-23 08:15 am UTC (link)
I thought everyone did? I mean, I'm capable of holding a polite conversation with him, but the available topics are limited.

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