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sistercoyote ([info]sistercoyote) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2011-01-21 08:20:00


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Sometimes, there are no words.
[info]_dahne_ writes a screed about how being "PC" has gone too far.

I don't even know what to say about this, other than someone needs to have their privilege checked. Badly. (Except, of course, that "Privilege, like 'troll' or 'fail' can now mean whatever we want it to mean, so my little statement there is apparently OPPRESHUN of her truth. Or something.)

I count sexism, ablism, heterocentrism, and I'm pretty sure racism in this one sentence alone:
The male side of fandom runs around calling each other niggerfaggots while the female side has earnest ten-page debates on whether calling something crazy is ablist.
(Emphasis hers)

Because the boys doing that is totes okay, y'all, and the girls should be doing the same thing. And men never, ever talk about whether what they're saying is hurtful to other people or not, 'cause that's girly stuff. (Hey, wankaboys, come and sit in the invisible corner with us bisexuals, English majors, and ampersands.)

And then there's this:
Like the idea of "tone argument." At its core, this makes sense; it's meant to address the idea that abused classes of people shouldn't have to be deferential to their abusers in order to be listened to.

In practice, what it means is, "I'm allowed to be an asshole as long as I'm really, really sure I'm right."

I just...I can't. I mean, the tools of the master will never tear down the master's house, but come on. By refusing to accept the tenets of the tone argument, we're bullying the people in power?

Whut?

And both examples are from the first seven paragraphs of her little screed. There's also kind of a priceless gem in there about Fandom_Wank being a "prime vector" for "too much" political correctness.

And I think the worst bit is (as far as I could tell before the comments were pushing me to the ragey point) she's not getting any disagreement.

I would love to be able to write a thoughtful rebuttal that might be as widespread in fandom as this one's (apparently) getting, but I'm afraid my brain keeps hanging up on What Is This I Don't Even.

ETA: [info]t_boy found swordygardner's response which is a breath of fresh air in amongst all that fail. ETA 2: In fact, pretty much all of page 2 of the comments (which is about the point she turned off anon commenting, I'll bet you), is pretty awesome.


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ealusaid
2011-01-22 04:38 am UTC (link)
Don't you know? By bathing in the tears of abled people we've bullied, we can be well again.

And that's all a disabled person ever wants. TV told me so.

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[info]felinephoenix
2011-01-22 04:43 am UTC (link)
Oh, if only someone had told me sooner! Because that's all I've ever wanted, ever, despite the fact that I've lived my entire life with this condition and can't really imagine my life any other way.

Come onnnnn, magic abled tears.

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ealusaid
2011-01-22 04:47 am UTC (link)
There is nothing more to life than hating our assistive devices, and listening to/watching the laughing children play outside our open bedroom windows.

And telling poor unfortunate fanficwriters that their porny h/c epic where one guy's cock saves the other from the terrible fate of not being perfectly abled might display attitudes that contribute to the systematic oppression of people with disabilities.

It's a living.

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[info]felinephoenix
2011-01-22 05:02 am UTC (link)
It's true. Sometimes, I just listen to the children and stare outside my window, crying. My (pretty, awesome, and new) cane can hardly hold me up under the weight of my tears.

You wouldn't happen to read X-Men fic, by any chance? No, wait, who am I kidding. That could apply to countless fandoms. Not that I could possibly ever complain about such a thing. Thanks to my semi-paralyzed hand, it's impossible for me to argue on the internet.

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ealusaid
2011-01-22 05:06 am UTC (link)
What a good thing you have all these mythical allies to argue for you just to make themselves look good. What wonderful people they are for tolerating your existence.

(I haven't read X-Men fic. And wow, I hadn't known just how much bile I had holed up about the subject. Whew.)

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[info]felinephoenix
2011-01-22 05:14 am UTC (link)
I know, right? I can't imagine how they can put up with it -- surely they would all leave me if they knew what a hideous monster lurks behind this screen.

(Ditto. Honestly, I know most people don't mean to be jerks, and I'm willing to give them a second chance when they are. Still, something about being told what I go through isn't real pisses me off! Can't imagine why.)

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[info]napalmnacey
2011-01-23 07:11 pm UTC (link)
This whole thread rocked, btw. Where can I get me these yummy abled people tears?! Do they work on chronic pain?!

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2011-01-24 06:26 pm UTC (link)
Clan Mitchell?
But only if you're struggling nobly against your disability to Be The Best You Can Be, regardless.

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ealusaid
2011-01-24 07:55 pm UTC (link)
...Maaan, as someone who's actually been a fan of Clan Mitchell for years, this makes me sadface. The crazypants stuff was actually a huge misrepresentation of the stories themselves, which were the first time I saw a portrayal of PWD as real people, not just objects of pity. (Also, the main character decides his family is crazy and he's moving to the other side of the country twice.)

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[info]sandglass
2011-01-22 06:14 am UTC (link)
Now I'm picturing someone in a wheelchair torturing able-bodied people and collecting their tears while cackling. This is probably why people go for blood instead of tears.

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ealusaid
2011-01-22 06:43 am UTC (link)
I don't use the phrase "temporarily able-bodied" for many good legitimate reasons, but also because of the mental image of a person in a wheelchair tapping a pipe wrench in their hand. "You're not disabled now... but you will be."

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[info]sistercoyote
2011-01-22 09:51 pm UTC (link)
I know the whole subject isn't funny, but the two of you might have made me laugh.

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[info]sistercoyote
2011-01-22 09:52 pm UTC (link)
Did you know there used to be a tool for collecting tears, called a lachrymatory?

The more you know.

Or, perhaps more accurately: you learn something new every day. And look what you (might have) wasted today on.

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