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sistercoyote ([info]sistercoyote) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2011-01-21 08:20:00


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Sometimes, there are no words.
[info]_dahne_ writes a screed about how being "PC" has gone too far.

I don't even know what to say about this, other than someone needs to have their privilege checked. Badly. (Except, of course, that "Privilege, like 'troll' or 'fail' can now mean whatever we want it to mean, so my little statement there is apparently OPPRESHUN of her truth. Or something.)

I count sexism, ablism, heterocentrism, and I'm pretty sure racism in this one sentence alone:
The male side of fandom runs around calling each other niggerfaggots while the female side has earnest ten-page debates on whether calling something crazy is ablist.
(Emphasis hers)

Because the boys doing that is totes okay, y'all, and the girls should be doing the same thing. And men never, ever talk about whether what they're saying is hurtful to other people or not, 'cause that's girly stuff. (Hey, wankaboys, come and sit in the invisible corner with us bisexuals, English majors, and ampersands.)

And then there's this:
Like the idea of "tone argument." At its core, this makes sense; it's meant to address the idea that abused classes of people shouldn't have to be deferential to their abusers in order to be listened to.

In practice, what it means is, "I'm allowed to be an asshole as long as I'm really, really sure I'm right."

I just...I can't. I mean, the tools of the master will never tear down the master's house, but come on. By refusing to accept the tenets of the tone argument, we're bullying the people in power?

Whut?

And both examples are from the first seven paragraphs of her little screed. There's also kind of a priceless gem in there about Fandom_Wank being a "prime vector" for "too much" political correctness.

And I think the worst bit is (as far as I could tell before the comments were pushing me to the ragey point) she's not getting any disagreement.

I would love to be able to write a thoughtful rebuttal that might be as widespread in fandom as this one's (apparently) getting, but I'm afraid my brain keeps hanging up on What Is This I Don't Even.

ETA: [info]t_boy found swordygardner's response which is a breath of fresh air in amongst all that fail. ETA 2: In fact, pretty much all of page 2 of the comments (which is about the point she turned off anon commenting, I'll bet you), is pretty awesome.


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[info]sisterelwood
2011-01-22 07:13 pm UTC (link)
[info]sf_drama has gotten a hold of this and people are getting banned.

http://community.livejournal.com/sf_drama/3149621.html

This is a pile of fail all around.

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[info]kitt_in_socks
2011-01-22 07:28 pm UTC (link)
This is completely OT, but goddamn blackbyrd2 must like the sound of their own keyboard. A footnote in an LJ comment? What.

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[info]ecchaniz0r
2011-01-23 09:24 pm UTC (link)
Wait wait wait - an UNIRONIC footnote.

I've put footnotes and asterisks in for lols, or knowing full well that it's dorkier than fuck to do so, but they did this in all seriousness?

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[info]napalmnacey
2011-01-24 12:30 am UTC (link)
Dude, they did it TWICE.

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WARNING
[info]woodenleg
2011-01-22 08:45 pm UTC (link)
There is some triggery stuff going on in that post (specifically, the thread starting with chambergambit on the first page) dealing with cutting and self-injury. Just a warning so people don't wander into that blind.

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[info]sisterelwood
2011-01-22 09:08 pm UTC (link)
Crap. Completely forgot about that. Sorry. :/

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Re: WARNING
[info]woodenleg
2011-01-22 09:21 pm UTC (link)
It's fine, I wasn't triggered or anything. I just think those who might be should have fair warning. :)

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Re: WARNING
[info]agent_hyatt
2011-01-22 11:40 pm UTC (link)
One of the commenters added a belated trigger warning in the subject line of their comment, and the triggery image is now screened. Comm policing: u doin it rite?

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[info]woodenleg
2011-01-22 11:43 pm UTC (link)
Thankfully, though there's still discussion of it going on in there. Better to be safe than sorry, I guess.

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[info]agent_hyatt
2011-01-23 12:18 am UTC (link)
Yup. Especially when it isn't just someone innocently forgetting to include a trigger warning, but rather them trying to shame the comm with triggering issues.

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[info]fools_game
2011-01-23 11:14 am UTC (link)
Wow, am I ever glad that was screened before I got there. I don't have many triggers, but that's one.

What a dick.

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[info]dottiness
2011-01-23 12:47 am UTC (link)
Ugh, interrobangings showed up there, too. Why am I not even surprised anymore. Way to white knight and mansplain, buddy.

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