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sistercoyote ([info]sistercoyote) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2011-01-21 08:20:00


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Sometimes, there are no words.
[info]_dahne_ writes a screed about how being "PC" has gone too far.

I don't even know what to say about this, other than someone needs to have their privilege checked. Badly. (Except, of course, that "Privilege, like 'troll' or 'fail' can now mean whatever we want it to mean, so my little statement there is apparently OPPRESHUN of her truth. Or something.)

I count sexism, ablism, heterocentrism, and I'm pretty sure racism in this one sentence alone:
The male side of fandom runs around calling each other niggerfaggots while the female side has earnest ten-page debates on whether calling something crazy is ablist.
(Emphasis hers)

Because the boys doing that is totes okay, y'all, and the girls should be doing the same thing. And men never, ever talk about whether what they're saying is hurtful to other people or not, 'cause that's girly stuff. (Hey, wankaboys, come and sit in the invisible corner with us bisexuals, English majors, and ampersands.)

And then there's this:
Like the idea of "tone argument." At its core, this makes sense; it's meant to address the idea that abused classes of people shouldn't have to be deferential to their abusers in order to be listened to.

In practice, what it means is, "I'm allowed to be an asshole as long as I'm really, really sure I'm right."

I just...I can't. I mean, the tools of the master will never tear down the master's house, but come on. By refusing to accept the tenets of the tone argument, we're bullying the people in power?

Whut?

And both examples are from the first seven paragraphs of her little screed. There's also kind of a priceless gem in there about Fandom_Wank being a "prime vector" for "too much" political correctness.

And I think the worst bit is (as far as I could tell before the comments were pushing me to the ragey point) she's not getting any disagreement.

I would love to be able to write a thoughtful rebuttal that might be as widespread in fandom as this one's (apparently) getting, but I'm afraid my brain keeps hanging up on What Is This I Don't Even.

ETA: [info]t_boy found swordygardner's response which is a breath of fresh air in amongst all that fail. ETA 2: In fact, pretty much all of page 2 of the comments (which is about the point she turned off anon commenting, I'll bet you), is pretty awesome.


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[info]lied_ohne_worte
2011-01-23 08:17 am UTC (link)
The "Free Speech!!!" argument always gets me, because

1) it is inconceivable that anyone on the internet could possibly be anything but a US-American,

and 2) "Free Speech" means that one may be as offensive as one likes, yet others are not allowed to utilise the same right in pointing out the offensiveness.

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[info]dottiness
2011-01-23 08:21 am UTC (link)
Yeah, free speech doesn't actually mean anything as an argument. It comes across as "You can't make me stop saying words! Haha, you lose!" But the thing is, free speech doesn't mean you're not an asshole. Saying those words even when asked not to does imply assholishness. It's just such a weird excuse for being a jerk. People can't stop me from doing of plenty of inappropriate things in public. It doesn't mean I'm going to do it.

(And yes on your below comment. While LJ is based in the US, it's not the US government, which is all the amendment applies to. Private companies can do whatever the hell they want. Example: I work for a newspaper, so I'm not supposed to have political endorsement stickers or signs on my car. If I do, I just have to park my car in a different lot so it's not associated with the paper. That's not against the first amendment. It is in fact perfectly within the law.)

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