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caitiedid ([info]caitiedid) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2011-02-01 17:05:00
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Penny Arcade says, "Rape culture is hilarious!"
Has anyone else been following the Penny Arcade Dickwolf Controversy (as I've taken to calling it)? The whole thing started with this comic, posted in August, which many readers took offense to due to an unfunny rape joke. The argument was revived with new fervor recently, and it's still ongoing. Personally, I'm finding it really difficult to enjoy the comic lately, because of the way this whole thing has been handled.

A better and more thorough write-up than I could ever hope to put together has been posted here.

Edit: Via seiberwing: An interesting protest movement has arisen on Tumblr.
Edit again: A couple of comments have indicated that the Tumblr linked in the above post has malware, so tread lightly.

Edit 3: Via lady7jane: This isn't the first time that Mike has exhibited douchebaggy behavior. "I don't know, Love Systems doesn't seem so bad to me."

Edit 4: Via airawyn and alexa: Jerry responds.

Edit 5: Via number13baby, Mike calls for the discussion to end.

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[info]wook77
2011-02-02 03:54 am UTC (link)
Completely derailing away from the Dickwolf bit, I saw on this post about not speaking at PAX East that RAINN supports transphobic organizations? Anyone got further information? I have shitty google-fu.

Going back to the dickwolf bits - the initial comic was awful but the response to it is absolute fail, especially the t-shirts and pennants. Yet I bet they're among the first to whine about women not attending events and how dare they bitch about not being invited to shit?! Ugh. Fuckers.

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[info]ekaterinv
2011-02-02 04:31 am UTC (link)
I saw on this post about not speaking at PAX East that RAINN supports transphobic organizations? Anyone got further information?

I saw someone claim that before, but I've never seen anyone give any examples or provide evidence to back it up, nor have I been able to find any. I really dislike and mistrust the person I saw claim it (she says a lot of misogynistic stuff), but I would like to see some evidence either way.

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[info]wook77
2011-02-02 05:33 am UTC (link)
I'm glad I'm not the only one that can't find any evidence. I'd like to continue respecting RAINN but if they support transphobic stuff, IDEK :/

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[info]jaseroque
2011-02-02 04:56 am UTC (link)
Fffnnngh omg the COMMENTS on that!

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[info]wook77
2011-02-02 05:32 am UTC (link)
I am so sorry :(:(:( Yes, the comments are, for the most part, rather full of fail though the explanations back are rather awesome.

Sorry for not warning for awful comments.

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[info]jaseroque
2011-02-02 05:37 am UTC (link)
I don't know why I was expecting better. :( Because it's a woman's blog, and I figured her readers would be sympathetic? Because she's saying things that can only be considered logical? But no. It's amazing how many ways they're finding of making her be wrong. (I only read a little bit, and then I walked away for the sake of my blood pressure.)

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[info]dottiness
2011-02-02 06:02 am UTC (link)
That blog is the one a lot of the PA "supporters" have targeted to prove how right they are about everything; apparently they've been sending the author of that post nothing but "RAPE RAPE RAPE" tweets and occasionally images of mutilated women.

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[info]jaseroque
2011-02-02 06:03 am UTC (link)
I -- images -- of.........

How can they even defend themselves.

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[info]dottiness
2011-02-02 06:05 am UTC (link)
This is why I really wish the PA authors would at least try to rein in their fanbase. I know the fans will probably still do stupid things, but sending vulgar tweets? Not to mention demanding the author of that post prove she's a rape survivor and when she justifiably tells them to screw off, report to the internet at large that she's just lying to try and get money?

Fuck this.

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[info]jaseroque
2011-02-02 06:13 am UTC (link)
Yeah. I mean, people are going to do bad stuff... and I blame them for letting this whole thing get started, but the level to which it has sunk now is so far beyond anything anyone should be able to consider acceptable. Even if they can defend their original actions in their minds, how can they even think of not trying to rein in something that's become this horrible? Even "I stand by my overall views regarding my comic, but what you guys are doing is totally unacceptable" would be better than just... ignoring something this foul.

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[info]dottiness
2011-02-02 06:16 am UTC (link)
The worst of it is that from what I've read, Mike is just encouraging them on twitter for the most part -- of the many, many of them tweeting vulgar, gross things and being absolute assholes, he's reprimanded exactly one, and many of his other tweets on the subject have been devil-may-care "well if you're offended, it's not my problem, stop being so angry, geez" sorts of stuff.

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[info]sandglass
2011-02-02 08:53 am UTC (link)
The comment thread on Shakesville (as of my last reading) was the best. Because they had no qualms about deleting and banning people.

Also, the one before it, where they replaced the comments with basically "I'm a douchey douche" and then banned.

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[info]inquisition
2011-02-02 08:14 pm UTC (link)
So the thing about RAINN is sort of hard to find, but I think there was an open letter to RAINN and then a bit of back and forth with RAINN about fixing the terms of their anti-discrimination policy.

That's all I've got with my Google-fu. I'm hopeful that RAINN is doing what they're saying and taking steps to correct this problem, but that might just be my privilege talking. :/

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