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sisterelwood
2011-02-03 10:05 pm UTC (link)

Yeaaaah. I'm kinda there with you. I'd also like to hear from these folks today regarding this. Yes, this is wrong and it's awful but we're looking at these comments from our current societal perspective. Yes, this kind of thing is wrong ALL THE TIME but I actually would like more of the context that the comments were made in - i.e. I would want to read more of the conversation surrounding the comments we have sampled in the article.

It's still really, really scummy no matter how you look at it but I just don't even know.

Never mind me, I'm just working out where to judge and on what criteria and how much of a hypocrite I am.

That is exactly where I am here.

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	snacky 2011-02-03 10:33 pm UTC (link)
	Right? It sounds completely sleazy to me, reading it, but then I'm like, "well, they make fiction, they wanted to throw in this dynamic and see what it did to the relationship, no actual minors were harmed".... and, yet, even with that in mind, they still sound completely sleazy to me. So. Just a thought process for me. (Reply to this)(Parent)

snarkhunter
2011-02-03 11:46 pm UTC (link)

we're looking at these comments from our current societal perspective

This, exactly. "It was a different time" is not an excuse for bad behavior, but we're not talking precisely about bad behavior, here. We're talking about the idea of bad behavior expressed in fiction.

However, I do agree with

sorchar that there's a certain skeeviness about this given its closeness to the Polanski situation, etc. OTOH, I think what we're seeing is less about these men in particular and more about a widespread cultural assumption regarding young women's (and, to a certain extent, young men's) sexuality.

(Of course, I also think that we need to be able to have open discussions about the reality of young teens having sex without necessarily assuming they are victims. Some of them are. Not all of them. And I say this as a person who is massively squicked by the idea of anyone under 15 having sex.)

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