The Wonder Woman trainwreck keeps on keeping on

It's a dark time in the DC universe. The Wonder Woman title is still stuck in some kind of inexplicable AU timeline where Diana finally got to wear pants, in exchange for not being actually heroic or effective or competent or anything.

How the main universe and nu!Wondy are even supposed to make sense together (since Wondy Classic has been MIA since this started) has so far stayed a vague, wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey open question. And as such a pivotal turning point for Wonder Woman the character *and* the mythos, of course somebody decided that it would best to reveal such a crucial part of her superhero origin in Superman's book and make it all. About. Him. (See exhibits A, B, C, D, E, and F for Why This Is Stupid And Sexist As Hell.)

Naturally, jlbarnett, limitless source of the unfunny, is just plain oblivious to logic as well as patronizing, spawning a long thread about the nature of the phrase "calm down." Apparently being angry with sexism is the real oppression at work here. Who knew?

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napalmnacey
2011-02-14 03:10 am UTC (link)

It kinda reminds me of the episode where Hercules turned Xena from OMG WARRIOR DESTROYER to a doer of good deeds. Except in her situation, they developed upon it and it turns out that it was the last straw in a huge line of things that happened to change her mind about her life. Xena had a tragic, horrible past and did some fucking awful things that she knows she can never make up for. That was kind of the whole point of the character.

Why bring that facet of her development into Wonder Woman, who already has a lush and vibrant backstory? I just don't understand. It's not necessary. And Supes already has the world wearing sunnies every time he turns around and bends over, he doesn't need Wonder Woman treating him like a fucking Messiah too. Of course, I don't read too many DC comics (Poor, haven't had the joy of doing that yet) and am not so up on their past canon. I always thought that Wonder Woman and Superman would have a sort of professional respect for each other, an affection as equals. This origin story totally makes Wonder Woman into a subordinate character, and that is really fucking dodgy.

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	chez_moi 2011-03-04 02:54 pm UTC (link)
	Also, Xena almost never cites Hercules as her reason for staying on the straight and narrow from, like, series 2 onwards. It's always Gabrielle. (Don't mind me - just making my way through the complete box set for the first time :D) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

napalmnacey
2011-03-04 04:35 pm UTC (link)

Actually, there's been a few people Xena's said were the reason. Lao Ma was one of them, and certainly one of the ones that started her on her path to good, I think. There was more but it's been some time since I've rewatched the series.

Just to warn you - series 6 isn't as good as the first five seasons. Though, five is my favourite. It hit the right balance for me, but I also love three and two. Ah, I love the whole show. Except series 6, but I'm weird.

Seriously, do not start me on Xena, I'll talk about it forever. But if you DO want to talk Xena with someone, I'm here. The Xena Fandom is pretty quiet these days. :)

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chez_moi
2011-03-12 04:29 pm UTC (link)

I'd love to talk to you about it! In RL the only other person I know who watches it is my dad, haha. We used to have, like, a bonding thing together back when seasons 2 and 3 were on the telly. And he calls it Zeenee XD

I'm halfway through 6 now, but to my surprise I actually liked some of it. Joxer's gone which sucks, but the I really enjoyed the Beowulf 3-parter, possibly because I'm not that familliar with Beowulf to start with. I miss the days of Callisto, though - she and Velasca were possibly the most badass villain duo in all history.

Funnily enough, I found some really old fanfiction the other day - possibly the first stuff I ever wrote, on a notepad in my drawer from about 10 years ago. It's all about Joxer and Autolycus fighting over my Mary-Sue. Ah, youth.

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