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napalmnacey ([info]napalmnacey) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2011-03-10 00:07:00


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Star Trek endorses Rape Culture
(TW: Rape Culture, objectification, enslaving women)

Hey everybody? You know what Star Trek needs? More objectification and exploitation of women! But we'll make them *green*, and alien so that it differentiates them from Earth women. That'll throw off the feminist hordes!

What am I talking about?

Why, Official Star Trek Fratboy shirts featuring the words "ORION SLAVES GONE WILD" on a t-shirt specifically being marketed to Frat Boys for Spring Break.

I wish I was kidding. I *so* wish I was kidding. I think what hurts the most about this is this is Star Trek. Ostensibly, it's supposed to be inclusive.

Bonus: These shirts were advertised on the official Star Trek Facebook page! No warning, no words, just a trigger out of the friggin' blue, with a heapin' help of "Get back in the kitchen" jokes for any women that complained about it in the comment thread.

ETA: http://www.facebook.com/StarTrek/posts/194446503919172

- I get threatened to be whipped.
- One guy threatened to show me what it was like to *not* survive a rape, but thankfully that was taken down. You see the fallout of that comment later.

Why is it when someone merely *mentions* that something might be exploitative or offensive in a firm tone that challenges the status quo, the death threats and the rage!posting occurs? It's like fucking clockwork.


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[info]hallidae
2011-03-10 03:08 am UTC (link)
"Courtney Roche" is my most hated type of female misogynist. The Kiss-Up. "LOLOLOLZ I CAN TOTALLY MAKE JOKES ABOUT OTHER WOMEN AND HOW STUPID AND USELESS THEY ARE AND HOW THEY NEED TO BE BEATEN TO SHUT UP, I'M TOTALLY COOL, DO YOU BOYS LOVE ME YET?"

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[info]napalmnacey
2011-03-10 03:39 am UTC (link)
"LOVE ME, LOVE ME, I'M DESPERATE FOR APPROVAL! LOLZOR."

It's fucking pathetic, but I'm not going to stoop to getting personal in the thread on FB. I've made my point, I think.

In other news, I have five paintings to finish for a sci-fi exhibition, and right now I'm triggered and strung out from no sleep and feeling like it doesn't matter what the fuck I put on that canvas, I was stupid enough to be born a woman so nobody is going to give a shit. YAY NEGATIVE THINKING!

Sorry, spooging needlessly, but this whole thing has got me down and worn me out.

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[info]sistercoyote
2011-03-10 05:00 am UTC (link)
Are you familiar with the Where No Woman community on LJ?

Does knowing that it's out there help?

I give a shit. I'd love to see it, but alas, I suspect you are not near enough for me to come to the exhibition.

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[info]napalmnacey
2011-03-10 05:11 am UTC (link)
Thanks, dude. I was just having a moment. Usually I keep that shit to myself but I was motoring on no sleep and a month to go to the exhibition. So my filter just sort of broke. *sheepish smile*

Don't worry, I will be putting photos of the paintings up in my deviant-art account after the exhibition for my international friends. They'll be nicely photographed, too.

And thanks for the link to the comm. Looks like an awesome comm! Pity it seems to have a preference for the movie, as most of my love of Trek is centered in TOS Original and TNG. :T

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[info]sistercoyote
2011-03-10 05:32 am UTC (link)
You have to hunt for it, but there's a fair amount of TOS/TNG stuff in the comm. I know Crusher is a favorite, and I'm pretty sure...Yep. Here's the TNG tag, and here's TOS.

And, hey -- no worries! Sometimes we just got to let that filter break for a little while.

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[info]napalmnacey
2011-03-10 05:41 am UTC (link)
Oh good! Crusher is my favourite TNG woman by far, so I'm glad to know fandom is fairly active around her.

I think it's cause Trek was my first fandom. I was practically breast-fed the damned stuff. Mum painted pictures of it, she read the novels, it was on TV and Mum taped it and watched it over and over again. Our family has a whole host of in-jokes and lore built up around it. We have an ongoing game where we quote the most obscure lines from the original series as we can, and whoever can't pick the episode the quote is from, loses the game. To have the official source of our fun basically condone rape and sex slavery is just - very hurtful. In a way I wasn't expecting.

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[info]squeakthemouse
2011-03-10 01:03 pm UTC (link)
I seem to have a habit of butting in to these comment threads lol. But I saw you love Crusher, which we have in common, and also being Trek fans since childhood. I remember watching ToS reruns with my Dad when I was little, and then when TNG came on we used to watch it together every week. It was one of my fave shows in junior high (that and original 90210). I find it pretty fitting I went to the '09 Trek with my Dad, since it's something I've shared with him pretty much my whole life. So far I'm the only person I know practically raised on Trek, so it's nice to have company!

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[info]sistercoyote
2011-03-10 06:42 pm UTC (link)
This makes three of us -- and I literally took in Star Trek with my mother's milk!

And my dad totally cried when Spock died in Wrath of Kahn.

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(no subject) - [info]napalmnacey, 2011-03-10 11:35 pm UTC

[info]everstar
2011-03-11 08:39 pm UTC (link)
Dr. Crusher rules, trufax.

(My first online shipdom? Picard/Crusher on the AOL boards back in the nineties.)

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[info]sepiamagpie
2011-03-10 11:10 am UTC (link)
I can provide a plethora of cute animal pictures and cool old fashion, if that would help cheer you up or distract you?

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[info]napalmnacey
2011-03-10 12:03 pm UTC (link)
For the love of God and Spock, yes. *smile*

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[info]sepiamagpie
2011-03-10 12:09 pm UTC (link)
theanimalblog.tumblr.com
allcreatures.tumblr.com

And the fashion one has made me all >:|, because for the first time *ever*, she decided to do something that isn't posting old fashion and posted three rupaul's drag race pictures with quotes from mean girls. So I was startled to find some really horrible language on the front page when I was checking it to make sure I'd give you the right link.

But if you scroll past those three pictures, the stuff she posts is always very interesting and those pictures are the very rare times she's offered anything that isn't directly related to her posts. As far as I can tell, the only other time was when she mentioned she didn't like fifties fashion much because the other decades were more interesting.

anyway:

omgthatdress.tumblr.com

Other ones, which update more rarely:

defunctfashion.tumblr.com
yeoldefashion.tumblr.com (has been focusing on jewellery trends, mixed in with regular clothes)

also: fuckyeahgiantpandas.tumblr.com

Essentially I spend all my tumblr time looking at adorable animals and old dresses. It's the most soothing site I visit.

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[info]napalmnacey
2011-03-10 12:14 pm UTC (link)
I love retro fashion, basically because in those days the emphasis was in the line, the proper construction of dresses to augment and flatter the figure (rather than the figure being trimmed down to flatter the fashion) and sparklies. I love sparklies and colour! Retro likes sparklies and colour. Makes me a happy Nacey. Hell, one of my comics is retro just so I can imagine beautiful dresses and outfits on the heroines.

Cute animals make everything okay. See:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/nacey/DSC08342b.jpg

Also boobs.

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[info]sepiamagpie
2011-03-10 12:17 pm UTC (link)
If you go back a fair bit (she updates so much, even if it was just a few days ago) you'll find she did a great section on my favourite designer, Jean-Phillipe Worth, and his brother Charles Fredericke Worth. Best part of the 1900s. Only thing I'd want from those decades is the fashion.

aw, kitty!

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[info]squeakthemouse
2011-03-10 12:58 pm UTC (link)
I love retro fashion, basically because in those days the emphasis was in the line, the proper construction of dresses to augment and flatter the figure (rather than the figure being trimmed down to flatter the fashion) and sparklies.

Butting in to say I totally agree! Back in fashion school, I felt kind of like a throwback b/c that's how I would design my clothes--they were meant to look better on the body than on the hanger. A lot of the stuff I designed would have to be worn by girls with curves. Which is ironic, considering that I have the kind of figure (skinny with no boobs/butt) that is better suited for fashion as we're used to it now.

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[info]napalmnacey
2011-03-10 01:06 pm UTC (link)
I've run into too many people that say, "Oh, but their body ruins the line of the clothes" and my internal narration goes, "WHAT THE HELL? ARE you a designer of clothes for humans or ARE YOU NOT? Do they teach you NOTHING about proper construction of clothes?!"

But a lot of the standards have slipped with modern production methods. Hems. What did they ever do to us? Why are we so cruel to the simple hem?! Do you know how many pieces of clothing I see in stores, particularly up-market fashion boutiques, where the clothes don't even have a decent hem?!

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(no subject) - [info]squeakthemouse, 2011-03-10 01:17 pm UTC
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[info]sparkysrevenge
2011-03-10 12:51 pm UTC (link)
I stopped following omgthatdress when she started making catty comments about what everyone was wearing during the Globes. It made a really, really sour taste in my mouth.

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[info]sepiamagpie
2011-03-10 01:00 pm UTC (link)
crap, that must have happened during one of my tumble hiatuses :(

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[info]ldymusyc
2011-03-10 04:36 pm UTC (link)
You weren't the only one. I was totally enamored of all the vintage clothing she posted right up to that point. Instant unfollow.

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(no subject) - [info]sparkysrevenge, 2011-03-11 02:04 pm UTC

[info]sqbr
2011-03-12 12:55 pm UTC (link)
I'm really sorry you're going through this. But I for one am looking forward to seeing your art! Your stuff is always awesome :)

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[info]phosfate
2011-03-10 03:18 pm UTC (link)
"THE BOYS WILL TOTALLY STAND UP FOR ME WHEN SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS, TOO!"

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[info]kumquat_of_doom
2011-03-13 10:08 pm UTC (link)
Ffff, oh god, I hate this. You know how you know that 'the boys' will stand up for you? When you can call them on their nonsense and they stop doing it.

I used to work with a bunch of real macho lad's lads (it was a car-and-bike shop, so you know) and we used to shout and swear at each other on a regular basis. They quickly learnt exactly what they could not say around me, especially as regards their girlfriends. And then I was out with them all once when my drink got spiked.

One of them took me back to his and kept an eye on me all night, then paid for my taxi home in the morning; the others, when they realised I *wasn't* just drunk, were pissed as hell about it and, had they caught the dipshit responsible, would have inflicted some serious violence on that person.

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[info]napalmnacey
2011-03-13 11:49 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I don't talk too much about the discrimination and pain women go through on a daily basis, especially my own experiences, to my boyfriend. Not because he doesn't understand, but because he cares so much that it'll ruin his day and he'll worry incessantly about it. He feels a lot of rage on my behalf.

You can know men like that and *not* throw your sisters under the effin' bus. Though clearly that concept isn't clear to the ladies we're talking about.

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[info]tiasian
2011-03-11 10:52 am UTC (link)
She uses the awfullest tactics, too. Just this smirking supercilious tone. Ugh. I can't even imagine trying to respond coherently to that, so props to you napalmnacey.

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[info]tiasian
2011-03-11 10:54 am UTC (link)
Er I should say, the awfullest tactics aside from outright threats and violent speech.

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