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sistercoyote ([info]sistercoyote) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2010-09-29 09:36:00


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Because comparing Zoe Saldana to a Monkey is totally not racist
Generally speaking, by some miracle, Star Trek fandom has managed to be relatively wank-free (you know. For a large fandom. Either that, or I'm hanging out in the wrong places online, which is totally a possibility).

Of late, however, there have been underground rumblings, of someone who wants to spend their time bashing Nu-Uhura, presumably for breaking up the Epic Wuv between Kirk and Spock. But I'm not sharing this with y'all because someone is wanking about their OTP being harshed. No, this goes much further, and deeper, than that.

The rabbit hole apparently starts here. Unfortunately, no one capped the deleted comments, so we'll never see the fic in question.

You see, the person who wrote the deleted fic (one lotus_fly) at one point had up an image that...well, I'll just let you see for yourself. (WARNING: This is the beginning of the unfunny. Also, if you browse that journal you'll see a whole lot of misogyny in addition to the racism.)

But of course, The people calling lotus_fly on her racism are just like racists! Or maybe they're meeeeeeeean, because they MADE her delete her posts. But a thoughtful mouse provides a screencap so we can all see what she said, anyway.

And so, lotus_fly sets off and starts her own community with rules allowing character bashing, but no bashing of those who do the bashing of the characters, thereby "proving" that she never had racist intent.

Wait.

What?

(Entry edited because I apparently have pronoun issues)

Edited to Add:
Apparently, lotus_fly posted some of her fic to the LiveJournal Where_No_Woman community. This went about as well for her as you might think and resulted in her bannination.

And, there has been journal bahleetion.


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[info]sepiamagpie
2010-09-29 06:40 pm UTC (link)
Well.

That graphic in the screencap is something.

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[info]sistercoyote
2010-09-29 07:41 pm UTC (link)
That's a very polite way to put it.

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[info]rosehiptea
2010-09-29 06:49 pm UTC (link)
That graphic is... vile. Also I see no difference between the two pictures on the top except a little bit in the lighting.

The fic is still up here? Or is that not the fic in question?

http://lotus-fly.livejournal.com/12335.html#cutid1

(Found the link in the comments at the kink meme but didn't actually read it yet.)

And is this person for real? (comment on a different fill...)

I love you're writting! I don't know who that bitch Uhura thinkss she is but this is hoe the movie should have gone!! I liked the old Uhura, you know where she sang to the others but stayed out of the action and never ever got in the way of any slash. You know when she stayed in the backgorund? Please write more!

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[info]sistercoyote
2010-09-29 07:44 pm UTC (link)
I believe in the left-hand photo her features have been somewhat coarsened. However, unless the paparazzi are also using CGI, I'm pretty sure the manipulation was on the left hand side, and not the right.

I don't actually know if that's the original fic, since I wasn't in on the original post.

I really wouldn't put it past lotus_fly to be socking herself. Though there is a parody here and that comment could be intended similarly. Only -- if you're so far across the line no one can tell, you might be doin' it rong, you know?

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[info]mareen
2010-09-29 07:44 pm UTC (link)
Also I see no difference between the two pictures on the top except a little bit in the lighting.


You mean the two pictures of Uhura? The first one has obviously thicker eyebrows, smaller eyes, a bigger nose, a larger chin, a smaller upper lip, the cheekbones have been moved up a bit and I think made look a bit thicker, and there is less overall color to take the glow off her face. The one on the right is the real Zoe Saldana.

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(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2010-09-29 07:55 pm UTC

[info]floriatosca
2010-10-01 12:03 am UTC (link)
I find this blatant "uppity bitch needs to know her place" attitude weird in more ways than the obvious, since I'd heard some people in fandom's explanation for writing all-guys, all-the-time being "well, there aren't enough women in the franchise who aren't background characters, distressed damsels, or 2-d love interests."

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[info]fools_game
2010-10-01 02:13 am UTC (link)
The fic to which that comment was left was very obviously a satire, so either that comment is hilariously in the spirit of things, or the saddest most oblivious little misogynist ever.

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(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2010-10-01 02:48 am UTC

[info]drakyndra
2010-09-29 07:03 pm UTC (link)
I liked the old Uhura, you know where she sang to the others but stayed out of the action and never ever got in the way of any slash. You know when she stayed in the backgorund?

I'm not sure if the fact she's so willing to admit she just hates her for getting in the way of the slash is admirably honest or not. Probably not, given the rest of the content.

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[info]sistercoyote
2010-09-29 07:45 pm UTC (link)
It's honest. I don't know if it's admirable or not, but it's honest.

I like the post where she basically says Gaila is a slut because she doesn't cover up when Uhura comes in the room and doesn't tell Uhura to go somewhere else to get undressed.

Um, what?

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(no subject) - [info]cat_mcdougall, 2010-09-29 08:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2010-09-29 08:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tehrin, 2010-09-30 12:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2010-09-30 05:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2010-09-30 05:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2010-09-30 10:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]littleshebear, 2010-09-30 01:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kylenne, 2010-09-30 03:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kookaburra, 2010-09-30 07:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2010-09-30 07:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kookaburra, 2010-09-30 07:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mary_mac, 2010-10-03 10:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2010-09-29 08:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]havocthecat, 2010-09-30 03:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]drakyndra, 2010-09-30 03:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]havocthecat, 2010-09-30 03:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]havocthecat, 2010-09-30 03:19 pm UTC

[info]spawn_of_kong
2010-09-29 08:47 pm UTC (link)
*clicks on image link*

......Woooooow.

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(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2010-09-29 08:56 pm UTC

[info]ladyofviolets
2010-09-29 08:51 pm UTC (link)
I had heard a lot a out this speshul snowflake but had never seen that picture...

I wish I had never seen it. Whaaaaaat.

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(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2010-09-29 08:55 pm UTC

[info]lyrangalia
2010-09-29 08:59 pm UTC (link)
re: The Graphic

Really? That's really what you want to go with?

The "you" in this case obviously refers to lotus_fly, not OP

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(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2010-09-29 10:15 pm UTC

[info]staroverthebay
2010-09-30 12:01 am UTC (link)
That image is just... confusing. Is she saying that Ms Saldana is like a lungfish (or is that a catfish?), or like a monkey, or both? And if both, how the hell did she come up with that? Because I don't see it, at all. (I've seen a collage with images of G.W. Bush compared with similar monkey expressions, that was much more convincing)

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(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2010-09-30 12:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]staroverthebay, 2010-09-30 04:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]risha, 2010-09-30 04:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2010-09-30 04:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]staroverthebay, 2010-09-30 05:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2010-09-30 05:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]floriatosca, 2010-09-30 11:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jabberwockypie, 2010-09-30 05:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]octopedingenue, 2010-09-30 10:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2010-09-30 10:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chibikaijuu, 2010-10-01 06:41 am UTC

[info]fashi0n_mistake
2010-09-30 12:13 am UTC (link)
She's been posting a lot to the general reboot com at the moment. I've been glaring at the screen every time her name appears on my flist.

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(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2010-09-30 12:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jabberwockypie, 2010-09-30 05:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kelmendi, 2010-10-04 11:18 am UTC

[info]tehrin
2010-09-30 12:23 am UTC (link)
The blackface and scat insult "joke"...

Her "I am not racist" defense prosecutes itself.

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(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2010-09-30 12:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kylenne, 2010-09-30 03:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tehrin, 2010-09-30 03:36 am UTC
She's a BAWWWW engine! - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2010-09-30 03:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2010-09-30 04:32 am UTC

[info]sandyclaws68
2010-09-30 12:25 am UTC (link)
I don't think there are enough words in the English language to describe the amount of WRONG in that graphic, although NO does a pretty good job.

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(no subject) - [info]lady_jafaria, 2010-10-05 01:53 am UTC

[info]ecchaniz0r
2010-09-30 03:37 am UTC (link)
To say that lotus_fly's written work and her computer should be burned to the last scrap of paper and last snippet of solder is an insult to fire.

She's on par with the FATALoids, ladies and gentlemen. She is the scum that scum looks down its nose at. She is a hateful little bigoted creature and I really hope that she has the rudest of rude awakenings and that the guilt makes her barf.

That's the worst I can wish on her because I cannot think of anything to wish on her that is worse than BEING WHAT SHE IS.

To hell with this. Where's the corkscrew, it's pinot noir time.

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[info]finchbird
2010-09-30 04:31 am UTC (link)
That image. And her comments. HOLY SHIT!

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[info]cyndra_falin
2010-09-30 08:31 am UTC (link)
What a disgusting individual!

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[info]ekaterinv
2010-09-30 10:10 am UTC (link)
Not clicking on the image. The quotes are bad enough. Dear gods.

I think the only way to counter this nauseous feeling is with some seriously Uhura-positive sex-positive fun smut. Anyone have links?

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So, massive coding fail, sorry. - [info]sistercoyote, 2010-10-01 04:43 am UTC

[info]coffeebun
2010-09-30 05:36 pm UTC (link)
Wow so uh I just literally made the D8 face after seeing that picture.

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(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2010-09-30 05:42 pm UTC

[info]drakyndra
2010-10-01 06:26 am UTC (link)
So, guess who posted a fic to where_no_woman which was subsequently deleted for innappropriate content.

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(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2010-10-01 05:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2010-10-02 03:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2010-10-02 07:43 am UTC

[info]minibalrogmum
2010-10-01 02:42 pm UTC (link)
My, my, lotus-fly appears to have deleted her journal. What a sad loss for fandom, truly.

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(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2010-10-01 05:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cyan_aura, 2010-10-02 11:42 am UTC

[info]wook77
2010-10-03 09:01 pm UTC (link)
I really wish she hadn't deleted her journal. Now I'll have to figure out what new name she's using and who to avoid in the future. That much fail needs to be avoided for the good of the world.

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(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2010-10-03 09:40 pm UTC

chironstar
2010-10-14 05:16 pm UTC (link)
Zoe Saldana is so very beautiful - I always love seeing pictures of her (in magazines, ads, etc.) - methinks I have a bit of a girlcrush on her. The only response I had to that picture was a shocked resounding "WTF??!" :(

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