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sistercoyote ([info]sistercoyote) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2010-09-29 09:36:00


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Because comparing Zoe Saldana to a Monkey is totally not racist
Generally speaking, by some miracle, Star Trek fandom has managed to be relatively wank-free (you know. For a large fandom. Either that, or I'm hanging out in the wrong places online, which is totally a possibility).

Of late, however, there have been underground rumblings, of someone who wants to spend their time bashing Nu-Uhura, presumably for breaking up the Epic Wuv between Kirk and Spock. But I'm not sharing this with y'all because someone is wanking about their OTP being harshed. No, this goes much further, and deeper, than that.

The rabbit hole apparently starts here. Unfortunately, no one capped the deleted comments, so we'll never see the fic in question.

You see, the person who wrote the deleted fic (one lotus_fly) at one point had up an image that...well, I'll just let you see for yourself. (WARNING: This is the beginning of the unfunny. Also, if you browse that journal you'll see a whole lot of misogyny in addition to the racism.)

But of course, The people calling lotus_fly on her racism are just like racists! Or maybe they're meeeeeeeean, because they MADE her delete her posts. But a thoughtful mouse provides a screencap so we can all see what she said, anyway.

And so, lotus_fly sets off and starts her own community with rules allowing character bashing, but no bashing of those who do the bashing of the characters, thereby "proving" that she never had racist intent.

Wait.

What?

(Entry edited because I apparently have pronoun issues)

Edited to Add:
Apparently, lotus_fly posted some of her fic to the LiveJournal Where_No_Woman community. This went about as well for her as you might think and resulted in her bannination.

And, there has been journal bahleetion.


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[info]staroverthebay
2010-09-30 12:01 am UTC (link)
That image is just... confusing. Is she saying that Ms Saldana is like a lungfish (or is that a catfish?), or like a monkey, or both? And if both, how the hell did she come up with that? Because I don't see it, at all. (I've seen a collage with images of G.W. Bush compared with similar monkey expressions, that was much more convincing)

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[info]sistercoyote
2010-09-30 12:12 am UTC (link)
She's saying that if you combine the attributes of a catfish (though I can see the confusion) with a monkey, you get Ms. Saldana.

I don't see it, at all, either. But then, my response to Ms. Saldana is one hell of a lot more positive.

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[info]staroverthebay
2010-09-30 04:27 am UTC (link)
Is there some special meaning attached to either animal that I'm completely oblivious to? Because I still don't understand why someone would pick those two animals to combine in any manner in the first place. My naivete, let me show you it?

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[info]risha
2010-09-30 04:38 am UTC (link)
Racists have traditionally compared black people to monkeys.

The catfish is a mystery, though...

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[info]sistercoyote
2010-09-30 04:57 am UTC (link)
Gape-mouthed and walleyed, maybe? I'm at a loss.

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[info]staroverthebay
2010-09-30 05:09 am UTC (link)
Racists have traditionally compared black people to monkeys.
THAT I didn't know. Dear lord. Now that image makes me cringe and want to take a very long hot shower.

The catfish being a bottom-feeder ("Scum-sucking" one could say), I can only assume that that's why it was chosen.

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2010-09-30 05:36 am UTC (link)
I have not seen the image and am NOT GOING TO CLICK, but I'm guessing it's big-lipped? That's a catfish thing.

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[info]floriatosca
2010-09-30 11:56 pm UTC (link)
The only fandom character I've ever compared to a catfish in my head has been Toki Wartooth from Metalocalypse, and that only because of his vaguely tendril-like facial hair. Since as far as I know neither incarnation of Uhura has a Fu Manchu 'stache, I'm lost.

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[info]jabberwockypie
2010-09-30 05:32 am UTC (link)
Is that anything like being a manta ray in the sea but a wolf on land. Only really racist?

I wonder if Ms. Saldana has considered Vaporeon.

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[info]octopedingenue
2010-09-30 10:19 pm UTC (link)
But manta rays take to the AIR!

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[info]sistercoyote
2010-09-30 10:38 pm UTC (link)
That is really, phenomenally, awesome.

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[info]chibikaijuu
2010-10-01 06:41 am UTC (link)
MANTA RAY

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