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Like a book club, except with more sex! ([info]notjo) wrote in [info]unfunnybusiness,
@ 2009-04-12 11:05:00


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Amazon thinks you should be protected from GLTB novels
I got this from [info]rydra_wong here:

Amazon is stripping the sales ranks from GLBT books, thus preventing them from showing up in some bestseller lists and searches (and potentially directly damaging their sales), on the grounds that they are "adult" material.

(This is regardless of whether they contain any explicit sex. Meanwhile, books with explicit heterosexual sex scenes retain their sales rank, as long as they're not overtly marketed as "erotica".)


More details here

ETA:
A petition
Twitter - #amazonfail
Roundup Post, includes posts linking to what books are losing their sales ratings.
Contact Amazon's exec customer service dept at ecr@amazon.com to let them know what you think. Customer service phone number is 1-800-201-7575

From [info]arionhunter in the comments, FYI: Not only LGBT books are going under - feminist and general sexuality books are having their ranks stripped as well. Oh, those silly disabled people, trying to be intimate like the rest of us.

[I own that book linked. It's one of the few books that explicitly talks about sex for PWD and includes sections on kink.]

ETA 2:

Amazon Blames Glitch, blah blah. The PW site went down about five minutes after it hit twitter, so here is the text:

Amazon Says Glitch to Blame for "New" Adult Policy
By Rachel Deahl & Jim Milliot -- Publishers Weekly, 4/12/2009 5:49:00 PM

A groundswell of outrage, concern and confusion sprang up over the weekend, largely via Twitter, in response to what authors and others believed was a decision by Amazon to remove adult titles from its sales ranking. On Sunday evening, however, an Amazon spokesperson said that a glitch had occurred in its sales ranking feature that was in the process of being fixed. The spokesperson added that there was no new adult policy.

For most of the weekend on Twitter, in conversations with the hash tag "#amazonfail," users were discussing the fact that the e-tailer was removing the sales rankings for books that it deemed featured "adult content." Many readers, and writers, decried the fact that Amazon appears to be removing the sales ranking for titles that feature gay and lesbian characters and/or themes.

The director of the Erotic Authors Association, who goes by the pen name Erastes, told PW that many of her members "noticed their titles had been stripped of their sales rankings" on Amazon. One, Mark Probst, contacted a customer service representative at Amazon and wrote about the exchange on his blog. Probst wrote that the Amazon rep responded to his inquiry by saying that "'adult' material" is being excluded from appearing in "some searches and best seller lists" as a "consideration of our entire customer base."

Whether a glitch or new policy, titles like James Baldwin's Giovanni's Room and Annie Proulx's Brokeback Mountain are among the titles who have lost their ranking.

ETA 3:
I shoulda been a better OP and been posting updates as they came in.

This started in February

This is not a Glitch

Bantown theory [I don't buy this theory, but YMMV]

Dear Author does a timeline

Dear Author explains metatagging [This is the theory I buy]

Troll claims responsibility [Which I really don't buy, because a) It's Weev and b) it's been debunked. And c) because it only works if you think the only books targetted are GLTB books, and it wasn't.

Debunking of Troll-code


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[info]yoritomo_reiko
2009-04-12 04:18 pm UTC (link)
Damn it, I don't have another good place to buy from here.

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[info]jkefka
2009-04-12 09:28 pm UTC (link)
Powells.com is good.

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[info]yoritomo_reiko
2009-04-12 09:29 pm UTC (link)
Not so useful for the United Kingdom, unfortunately.

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[info]jkefka
2009-04-12 09:39 pm UTC (link)
ooh, hm. I have no idea what's good for books in the UK.

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[info]bolboreta
2009-04-12 09:43 pm UTC (link)
I thought of Borders (I'm in Spain, shipping from the UK is cheaper), but there might be something wrong with them as well that I don't know of *tears hair out*

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[info]sparkysrevenge
2009-04-13 12:47 am UTC (link)
I know Borders does sell some books through Amazon, so that's not completely non-failworthy.

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[info]sistercoyote
2009-04-13 06:25 pm UTC (link)
Not anymore - Borders and Amazon separated about...I want to say a year back?

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[info]sparkysrevenge
2009-04-13 10:13 pm UTC (link)
Can't be a year back, because I was still dealing with the Amazon stuff back in July.

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[info]sistercoyote
2009-04-13 10:39 pm UTC (link)
Huh. Okay; if you're dealing with it you'll know better than I do; I just know that Borders webpage seems to have completely severed ties with Amazon.

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[info]morganmuffle
2009-04-12 10:07 pm UTC (link)
Foyles has a pretty good website you can order from!

And any bookshop with piranhas in the children's section has my vote.

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[info]lyras
2009-04-12 11:44 pm UTC (link)
Bookdepository.co.uk - and they ship for free!

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[info]disdainful_soul
2009-04-13 03:49 am UTC (link)
Anywhere in the world!

I just discovered it and have already purchased three books. :) Thanks to free shipping etc. I basically wound up with three books for the price of just under two, and I didn't have to spend another $10 to go into town and back for Borders! Whee!

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[info]lyras
2009-04-13 05:08 am UTC (link)
Yep! The first time I ordered from them, I was really sceptical until the purchase went through that they'd really ship to Australia for free. Books tend to arrive at about the same speed as when I ordered from Amazon, too. And I like that they really seem passionate about reading.

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[info]oconel
2009-04-13 06:30 am UTC (link)
I second this!

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[info]kumquat_of_doom
2009-04-15 04:51 pm UTC (link)
Play.com is good, has free shipping, and is frequently cheaper than Amazon.

*also in the UK*

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