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BOF ([info]bof) wrote in [info]unfunnybusiness,
@ 2008-05-03 21:30:00


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Entry tags:godwin weeps, wtf?

This name sounds familiar. What does Kristallnacht mean?
There is a Harry Potter RPG called Kristallnacht at InsaneJournal.

A sample from the FAQ:

Is this really the best choice of names for your game?

We realize some people might look at the name and think, "Do they realize they just named their game after a horrific event in World War II?" And yes, we do, and were well aware of it when we named the game. We were drawing parallels between Grindelwald's actions and those in World War II. As you may notice, a few of the important events in our history even occur on the same dates as the historical events, and this was not by accident. Don't worry, we did our research, and we didn't just think, "Man, that sounds like a cool name, and I do like broken glass!" If you find it offensive at all, then we're really sorry. Like, really really. That wasn't our intent and we're really actually good people, I swear.

The comment section of the FAQ is growing with responses, and separate posts are being made.

A thread at asylum_promo where kdorian offers to pay for a rename token. Mods decline.
the-willow's post
chopchica's post
zvi-likes-tv's post
rydra-wong's post
jennem's post, including a translation
amireal's post, with a picture of the ij's banner in the comments
saved page of the faq, by zhinxy
amireal's second post, with links
rename post at asylum_promo
acari's post
thebratqueen's post
xanphibian's post
ithiliana's post
thelana's poll about the RPG name
gemmi999's post
the-willow's second post
chopchica's second post
coffeeandink's post
stoney321's post


marieantoinette "apologies"
blog post at racialicious
liz-marcs's post: The True Story of the Missing Jewish Women in Block 24




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[info]hallidae
2008-05-03 07:07 pm UTC (link)
Well, they fixed the spacebar idiocy I mentioned in the clairvoyant post, so now's the time for rage, which shall be copypasted here:

Anniversaries. Can. Be. Named. Different. Things. I mean, for God's sake, do they really think someone so anti-Muggle as Grindelwald would be using a Muggle term to describe what he's doing anyway?
Creativity - F
Sensitivity - F
Brains - F

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[info]ms_treesap
2008-05-03 07:29 pm UTC (link)
I feel ashamed that this fucker has been promo'd on my f-list for weeks and I never said anything.

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[info]ruuger
2008-05-03 07:32 pm UTC (link)
Does anyone know how old these people are? Because their game rules mention that *some* of their players are over 18, and the whole thing sounds to me like something a teenager would come up with (speaking here as someone who in high school spent two years telling a friend that no, neo-nazis are not cool and yes, holocaust did happen).

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[info]rekall
2008-05-03 07:33 pm UTC (link)
You get told all your life that humans need brains to live but you really have to start wondering when you see idiots like those mods.

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[info]nam_jai
2008-05-03 07:42 pm UTC (link)
I know next to nothing about role-playing games. My fandom point of reference is fic and so my first thought was that a good writer could possibly make something of this: a serious, thoughtful examination that could use the parallels in HP canon to bring home for the reader the real-life horrors.

Could RPG work this way? I have no idea. So I poked around the comm and there I saw this.

Oh yeah. I can tell how serious and thoughtful this lot is. Seriously thoughtless asshats, more like it.

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iwanttobeasleep
2008-05-03 07:53 pm UTC (link)
Ho shit. What's next, an AU RPG where Harry dies and Voldemort rules, called the Holocaust? Because it'd be similar, right?

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[info]onaga
2008-05-03 08:03 pm UTC (link)
And of course anyone who disagrees is an EXTREMIST.

God, I hate people.

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iwanttobeasleep
2008-05-03 08:04 pm UTC (link)
The Christians churches have fought against the point of Harry Potter and it's connection to magic. It's all a matter of opinion and we're sorry that it offends you.

Yeah, they totally went there.

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[info]deliciouschaos
2008-05-03 08:26 pm UTC (link)
There is not enough desk in the world for all the headdesking I need to do.

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[info]frequentmouse
2008-05-03 08:52 pm UTC (link)
Read this on my friend's list. Thought about it, went shopping, ate sushii. Thought some more. Read comments here.

Still boils down to another episode in the long running fannish soap-opera Harry Potter and the Banality of Evil, with special guest stars antisemitism, holocause denialism, and just plain historical ignorance.

SHEESH.

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[info]lostmahmarbles
2008-05-03 09:03 pm UTC (link)
I'm just going to watch that Discovery commercial again and again and pretend people like this died from swallowing stuff they found under the sink because no one this stupid can read warning labels.

*hides in her delusions*

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[info]kylenne
2008-05-03 09:14 pm UTC (link)
Oh fandom, your ignorance and sense of privilege never ceases to disgust the fuck out of me.

FOR THE EIGHTY BILLIONTH TIME, PEOPLE IN A POSITION OF PRIVILEGE DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO DETERMINE WHAT IS AND IS NOT OFFENSIVE FOR PEOPLE WHO DO NOT SHARE THAT PRIVILEGE.

I'm just going to sit here and try not to think of the branch of my family tree that was wiped out by the Porrajmos, so I don't stab these entitled twatwaffles in the face.

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[info]loopywafflehead
2008-05-03 09:20 pm UTC (link)
This one time, I had to move out of a big house and into a small apartment. It was totally like the Trail of Tears, you guys. And anyone who mocks my pain is an extremist who doesn't understand what a good person I am, really. ;__;

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[info]nam_jai
2008-05-03 09:35 pm UTC (link)
First "Some of my best friends are Jews," and now this:

[On the name change offer]: We were offered generously and kindly and it was something in discussion, until everyone else jumped on it and started acting so fanatic.

"We'll only consider thinking about not being offensive if you ask nicely." In other words, "Watch your tone!" Is marieantoinette aiming for Racism Bingo?

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[info]rowanberries
2008-05-03 10:22 pm UTC (link)
*STARES*

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(no subject) - [info]rowanberries, 2008-05-03 10:23 pm UTC

[info]beachlass
2008-05-03 10:28 pm UTC (link)
Is it just me? Or did they just delete all the comments from the FAQ page?

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(no subject) - [info]txvoodoo, 2008-05-03 10:48 pm UTC

[info]nam_jai
2008-05-03 10:29 pm UTC (link)
All the comments in the FAQ post have been bahleeted and comments turned off.

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Screencapped! - [info]zhinxy, 2008-05-04 01:48 am UTC
Re: Screencapped! - [info]bof, 2008-05-04 07:26 am UTC

[info]amireal
2008-05-03 10:51 pm UTC (link)
I was wondering if it was going to make it over here, might as well add my second post if you're collecting links:

http://amireal.livejournal.com/756736.html

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[info]solesakuma
2008-05-03 10:58 pm UTC (link)
You know, I have this plotbunny about Grindelwald's childhood in the Austrian-hungarian Empire and about the idea of nation and about his war and the French Resistance and many other things but I've never even started it because it would be so difficult to be accurate and serious and not hurt anybody and I'd probably ruin it.
I thought other people had the same restrains.
I hate the world.

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[info]thebratqueen
2008-05-03 11:25 pm UTC (link)
I'll take, oh, ANYTHING ELSE for $100, Alex?"

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[info]amireal
2008-05-03 11:30 pm UTC (link)
http://asylums.insanejournal.com/asylum_promo/409406.html?thread=440126#t440126

A mod is taking suggestions for a new name. *holds breath*

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[info]pipssister
2008-05-03 11:50 pm UTC (link)
Another Jew here. You know, I was just thinking about how much I hate Holocaust Remembrance Day ... not because I think it's not important, it's very important but because some sort of racist bullshit always seems to happen on it. THANKS A LOT FOR MAKING ANOTHER ONE SUCK, FUCKTARDS.

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[info]pattypleb
2008-05-03 11:52 pm UTC (link)
I'm glad that the objections have had an effect, but it doesn't seem like the mods have actually recognized the legitimacy of any of the complaints. I think they're just trying to stave off more arguments.

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[info]notjo
2008-05-03 11:56 pm UTC (link)
I'll watch my fucking tone to the next person who treats racism and anti-semitism like they actually exist. The rest of the god damned world can deal with my really angry and offended tone of voice, thank you.

Tone. Fucking TONE. Holy fucking shit, Tone.

...

I'm getting drunk. It's Saturday, I don't care.

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(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2008-05-04 07:14 pm UTC

[info]ashes
2008-05-04 12:15 am UTC (link)
These people are fuck heads. Everyone else said this already, but to this:

For me, roleplaying isn't just fun. I write for a living. I rp not for the sheer enjoyment of it, but to put characters through situations, to flesh them out and come to a more human quality to them, round them out. It helps give me a better understanding of what I am writing. For me, it's as much work as it is amusement.

This is the only part where I want to shake the poster and say, "JUST A GAME, GUYS!" However, this may be what they want, because they can then say, "Oh, well, it's just a game then -- it's not offensive at all!" I feel cornered by this.

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