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t_boy ([info]t_boy) wrote in [info]unfunnybusiness,
@ 2009-04-29 12:17:00


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Current mood:bitterly resigned
Entry tags:another reason to hate people, oh for god's sake, omg i'm not like those *other* women, rights what rights?, sure we don't need no feminism, teh ebil ghey agenda!

Whenever I Hear About You Guys Talking About Gay Marriage, I'm Reminded Of Shit Like This.

I suppose this is a reminder of how far the LGBT community in the West has come.

Meet Thio Li-Ann. She’s a Singaporean professor of Law at the National University of Singapore, and is a Nominated Member of Parliament.

NMPs (there are up to six of ‘em) get to vote, but only on not-dangerous shit, like stuff that doesn’t involve changing the constitution, public funds, or removing from power those who nominated them to power. But srsly, Singapore is so fucking advanced it doesn’t really need democracy. They’re like the Next Generation of Socialist Robot Utopia, except not really.

For a bit more background, Section 377A of the Penal Code of Singapore is the main remaining law in Singapore that criminalizes “gross indecencies” committed between men.

Now see what Professor Thio says to defend 377A.

The ‘liberal’ camp wants 377A repealed. They offer an ‘argument from consent’ –government should not police the private sexual behaviour of consenting adults. They opine this violates their liberty or ‘privacy’. They ask, ‘Why criminalize something which does not “harm” anyone; if homosexuals are “born that way”, isn’t it unkind to ‘discriminate’ against their sexual practices?

These flawed arguments are marinated with distracting fallacies which obscure what is at stake – repealing 377A is the first step of a radical, political agenda which will subvert social morality, the common good and undermine our liberties.

I’ll tell you this: I could not get past this paragraph before my brain started shutting down (pre-labelling the opposition’s argument always seems to engage my brain’s spam filter, much in the same way 419 scam emails engages your mailbox's). And it is a long speech. It is heavy going.

So let me post some point-to-point rebuttals made by members of the Singaporean Internet.

You think this is bad, though? At the very least she’s Singaporean. At least in Singapore there’s a rather thin veneer of intellectual respectability that gives Our Friendly Neighbors the ability to sneer at their brutish uncivilized cousins across the Tebrau Strait.



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[info]blue_penguin
2009-04-29 05:58 am UTC (link)
"Nice" use of scare quotes, there.

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[info]quantumreality
2009-04-29 07:27 am UTC (link)
OT: Am sporfling at your icon. :) It is made of win.

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[info]blue_penguin
2009-04-29 03:27 pm UTC (link)
Thanks! I didn't make it, though (credit should be in the "comments" section on my icon page, if you're interested).

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[info]underwaterowl
2009-04-29 06:31 am UTC (link)
Interestingly enough, my mum's girlfriend is from Singapore, in the process immigrating to Canada so they can get married. I should link people to this shit when they ask my why my mother doesn't move over there.

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[info]the__ivorytower
2009-04-29 07:25 am UTC (link)
I think the only reason I'm not going D: right now is because it's 2:30 AM in my timezone and I'm too tired for it to register. I'm sure I'll be doing it when I read JF this morning.

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[info]saieboux
2009-04-29 12:24 pm UTC (link)
Oh GODDAMMIT Singapore. :[

And people ask me why I don't want to move back to Singapore.

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[info]notjo
2009-04-29 02:03 pm UTC (link)
I really want to be part of a radical political agenda.

Instead, I just kiss girls a lot.

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[info]issendai
2009-04-29 02:13 pm UTC (link)
The political is personal, the personal is political. Kiss those girls for the good of the planet.

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[info]blue_penguin
2009-04-29 03:28 pm UTC (link)
Hmm, I wonder how that one would work as a pick-up line. "Can I kiss you? It's for the good of the planet!"

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ariadne484
2009-04-29 04:36 pm UTC (link)
Here's the planet to show them when you ask!

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[info]blue_penguin
2009-04-29 05:46 pm UTC (link)
Your aid in my quest to kiss more girls is much appreciated.

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[info]mydemand
2009-05-01 02:24 am UTC (link)
Hello. I'm across the Causeway from you. And we sneer at your general direction.
(But seriously. This is a reason why I'm based in Australia now.)

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[info]t_boy
2009-05-01 11:16 am UTC (link)
Wait, you're Singaporean?

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[info]mydemand
2009-05-01 01:45 pm UTC (link)
No, Johorean. Across the Causeway from the OP.

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[info]t_boy
2009-05-01 05:25 pm UTC (link)
...but I'm the OP.

I meant that last paragraph ironically, BTW.

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[info]mydemand
2009-05-01 10:25 pm UTC (link)
HA really?! I'm confused. Because the links referred to Malaysia and I thought the posts came from a Singaporean. lol

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[info]t_boy
2009-05-01 10:26 pm UTC (link)
._.

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[info]damien
2009-05-05 09:16 pm UTC (link)
That's how I read it too! Though on reread, the "Our Friendly Neighbors the ability to sneer at their brutish uncivilized cousins" means that it's a Malaysian talking about Singoporeans as their 'neighbors'.

At least, I think that's how it's meant to be read. Correct me if I'm wrong, OP!

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[info]t_boy
2009-05-06 12:38 am UTC (link)
Yes, you've got it right.

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