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Caito Potato ([info]caito) wrote in [info]unfunnybusiness,
@ 2009-05-19 00:45:00


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Street Preacher, Internet Shitshow
This is some serious unfunny. (And the mouse who posted it to [info]wank_report   thought it was appropriate for [info]otf_wank  . Ergh.)

Brace yourself, there's whole piles of major fail to go around.

Yeah, this one is definitely a doozy. And before we go any further, I should tell you that there's some things that might squick you about this, particularly in the medical details about the baby and some people's lack of sensitivity about it. Be aware of that before reading on, and think twice before clicking on certain links. That includes Wikipedia!

Myah Walker is a Born Again Christian and single mother to Faith Hope, now twelve weeks old, and born without a brain (and a significant portion of skull).

Before Faith's birth, Walker was seriously dubious of medical professionals' opinions on Faith's condition.
I said to him, "Look... I know this is the current 'body of knowledge' and this is what's in your text books, but I do not believe it. I just don't buy it." ...I knew the neonatologist would probably try to impress me with his textbook knowledge and I knew he would probably offer Faith nothing."
She exhorts her blog readers,
You can read all the text books and medical journals you want, but the truth is revealed in babies like Faith. This is real life, not a text book. When you see the pictures and watch the videos, you can't deny that this life is precious and worth protecting.
As for baby Faith, she seems to have settled into a daily routine.
Apart from a sterile dressing on her head that needs to be changed once a day, Faith lives a completely normal life. She isn't suffering or sickly, like you would expect. With no tubes and no machines supporting her life, she continues to thrive. She seems to function at the same level as any "normal" baby. In fact, she may be a little more advanced for her age. How many babies smile before they are born, start cooeing at one day old, and can sit up by 5 days old? I'm just saying!
Something Awful finds out about the whole deal, and wonders, who is the father and where is he? And so they find out:

Dan Lirette is a married preacher associated with a Baptist church in Moncton, Canada, where Walker had gotten involved in youth ministry and was eventually hired on as staff. He took her under his wing and along for the ride with "open air preaching." At some point, their relationship became intimate (some sources allege Lirette got Walker drunk in order to take advantage of her). According to Encyclopedia Dramatica (bastion of journalistic integrity that it is), Dan Lirette admitted:
I became involved in an adulterous affair with a summer student staff member at our church and she became pregnant.
Supposedly he had posted about this all over the internet (like maybe here), but started deleting things when he realized people were actually paying attention and putting two and two together. (I guess this was actually originally discovered by SA folks and posted in their thread there, but I can't see it.)

For his part, Lirette thinks SA is clearly possessed by demons:
There have been individuals from a vile secular site from the USA who have exploited my testimony and have spoken vile evils against myself and others; I have been harassed and maligned falsely by these unknown individuals and have felt the need to remove all posts online in an effort to at least stop, partially, their postings of outright lies.

Please do pray for these people; they operate on a site called "Something Awful" and exploit individuals worldwide for reasons unknown, saying such things as cannot be posted here as they are far too vile. (Please do not visit such a vile site; it was given for reference only)

These individuals are, for the most part, demon possessed, as their words on that site are filthy and clearly demonically inspired; may God have mercy on them.
While one hand prays, the other one threatens. Lowtax of Something Awful received this email:
Hi guys.

You may want to have your goons take down the dan lirette thread.

Your home address is being posted all over youtube, blogspot and forums.

Not me mind you, but I'm not stopping it.
Presumably, Lowtax responded with what amounted to, "Who the fuck are you and why should I give a shit?" Lirette wrote again:
You're about to find out rick. you see, your goons thought I was someone to laugh at. Now, there are some locals who are stirring up debate and two individuals in the USA who'd like to meet you. Your home addy is going up all over the place rick and I'm making sure of it. Try getting yuor SA pals to delete the thread located here: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Myah_Walker and here http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Dan_Lirette

The links at the bottom show the SA forum thread.


I'm not an internet tough guy. I'm in canada but two USA residents are coming for you rick. To talk. Call (XXX) XXX-XXXX sometime. Someone is looking for you rick. Not for violence. Just to talk. I promise.

Thankfully it's not a crime to post addresses online or to have another individual closer to you than I am pay you a visit.

I'm 32 years old Rick, and own a small business. If your forum posts are not down by Tuesday, I'm never writing you again. I'm coming for you, Rick.
After that, Lirette (or a friend? I'm not sure) created Youtube accounts (now deleted) seemingly for the purpose of intimidating Something Awful users. Simultaneously, the forums of moncton.net were overrun with what seem to be sockpuppet accounts "locals" decrying Something Awful "stirring up debate":
Something Awful is a cult that supports drug use, rape, racism, illegal use of firearms, harassment, piracy and child pornography. We exist to expose the cult that is Something Awful and the mastermind behind it Richard Kyanka.
Sources assume Lirette was behind this, especially considering the next few emails he sent to Lowtax claiming that he wasn't. Lowtax didn't feel compelled to take him very seriously at all.

For more on that particular aspect of the situation, you can visit Autoaim to view screencaps and mirrored videos of the stuff Lirette has taken down. There's also an ED article on Myah Walker (warning: some images may be disturbing).

Walker says she has been getting hate* email for her decisions regarding her baby, and she has received both publicity and criticism as well. There's also an extensive thread on Reddit.

*Image warning: sidebar ad depicts an aborted fetus.

For the record, the longest-lived anencephalic person I can find is Baby K, who died at two and a half years.

ETA 1: Walker did give a testimony at at least one right-to-life conference,
Myah Walker gave an eloquent testimony about choosing life for her unborn baby
whom she has named Hope. Six months pregnant, Myah has been told by doctors
that Hope is handicapped. She has had to resist repeated pressure to abort. She hopes
her story can inspire others about the God-given dignity of every child's life.
Sort of feels like they're leaving some things out.

ETA 2
: Myah Walker now says, on Facebook
Myah Walker doesn't understand how people can be so disgusting and cruel. There is a gang of people out there (known as the SA goons) who literally spend all their free time creating malicious websites about Faith and I. Please don't visit these sites because the more hits they get, the more popular they become. Just pray that God will either draw them near to him or kill them somehow. Seriously.
ETA: Baby Faith Hope has died at 93 days old.



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[info]thoms
2009-05-19 03:52 pm UTC (link)
On the one hand, I respect her for going through with carrying the baby to term. I honestly don't know what I would do in that situation.

But, she's going to get hit hard when all her prayers and her miracle turn out to be not-so, and the little girl dies anyway.

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[info]trout
2009-05-19 05:17 pm UTC (link)
I read about that woman and saw her street preaching videos long before I learned about the baby, and my reaction went from "crazy lady" to "oh my, that poor baby".

Now my feelings about her are mostly secluded from my feelings about her with her baby. I still think she's very crazy (probably had reasons before, too), baby or not. But why hate mail?

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[info]shadwing
2009-05-19 05:50 pm UTC (link)
Most likely to the effect of how she's such a monster for not aborting, it's clear that the child was lucky to live for a few days past birth...and how she's just prolonging the pain for herself and the child ect...

Jackasses...she has her reasons, and most of the med stuff linked here doesn't stated that the little one is in any real harm. So let the mother have the time (however much remains) with her baby in peace for cripes sake.

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[info]trout
2009-05-19 06:38 pm UTC (link)
Exactly.

And I saw that this apparently also brought anonymous hate comments to other parents who blogged about their children with the same condition. And in those cases, the children were already dead, but anonymous just had to point out now that the parents shouldn't refer to them as children because they were less than dogs or something like that.

Even the memory can't be left alone? Seriously!

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[info]wtf
2009-05-19 07:46 pm UTC (link)
That kinda bugs me, because if the haters had read up on the condition, they'd realize the poor kid is probably not in any pain. There's no brain to interpret signals like that.

I was reading the blog a bit, because I am apparently a masochist, and the mom mentions the baby can nurse, but has problems taking in enough milk. It makes me wonder if it's because the feeding reflex is there, but not the hunger 'switch.'

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(no subject) - [info]trout, 2009-05-19 09:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]wtf, 2009-05-19 09:56 pm UTC

[info]sandglass
2009-05-19 06:03 pm UTC (link)
The worst argument anyone could make is that she's wasting hospital time and funds on a lost cause that neither feels pain nor has a desire to live. I didn't read enough of her journal to see who is paying for the baby's medication, but she does reference getting some extra stuff for free, which arguably could have gone to someone who might live if they got it. But sending hate mail is still a horrible thing and not going to change anything.

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(no subject) - [info]trout, 2009-05-19 06:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]shadwing, 2009-05-19 09:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-05-20 01:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]shadwing, 2009-05-20 01:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2009-05-19 08:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]vzg, 2009-05-19 08:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-05-20 01:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]risha, 2009-05-19 09:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sandglass, 2009-05-19 09:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]risha, 2009-05-19 10:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2009-05-19 10:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-05-20 01:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sandglass, 2009-05-20 05:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]themadmermaid, 2009-05-22 11:36 pm UTC

[info]damien
2009-05-19 08:42 pm UTC (link)
If they don't know the kid isn't in pain -- and I didn't until I read this string of comments -- I would've assumed that she deliberately birthed a child, knowing it would suffer, solely because she refused to go against her beliefs. And I loathe people who use religion as an excuse to inflict pain on each other.

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[info]dottiness
2009-05-20 11:21 am UTC (link)
This whole thing is just one big mess of AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH. I can think of no better way to describe it.

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[info]meriel
2009-05-20 02:40 pm UTC (link)
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3121857&pagenumber=155#post360983278

Myah just claimed that SA is making malicious websites about her and Faith and said "Just pray that God will either draw them near to Him or kill them somehow."

Kill them somehow. Because that's so very Christian of her. What the fuck.

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[info]caito
2009-05-20 02:58 pm UTC (link)
Added that to the main post. Also I guess she said,
"These people have apparently posted horrible photos, recorded songs mocking us, have sent me and Jennifer and Faith's father hate mail, have impersonated us on the internet, and have created malicious websites and discussion forums meant to mock and torment us. They are the most evil people in the world --literally."
in response to someone's comment to her on Facebook.

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(no subject) - [info]xero_sky, 2009-05-20 04:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]vzg, 2009-05-20 06:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]xero_sky, 2009-05-20 08:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bigbigtruck, 2009-05-20 08:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bigbigtruck, 2009-05-23 06:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]fevered_ego, 2009-05-20 09:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladysphinx, 2009-05-21 01:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]fevered_ego, 2009-05-21 03:20 am UTC

[info]vzg
2009-05-20 06:22 pm UTC (link)
...so less sympathetic to her now.

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[info]agent_hyatt
2009-05-21 03:53 pm UTC (link)
She also said that they were demon-possessed and in need of exorcisms.

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[info]redwarrior
2009-05-21 08:34 pm UTC (link)
And totally pro-life.

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[info]demonoflight
2009-05-20 05:13 pm UTC (link)
Dear god.

I think it'd be a good thing if that poor baby died as soon as possible. Should I feel like a complete asshole? =(

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[info]ladysphinx
2009-05-21 01:27 am UTC (link)
Nah, don't feel like an asshole. I just hope that everyone gets out of this with as little pain as possible.


Except for Dan. I want things to happen to him that involve fire ants and Karo syrup and his testicles and a paintbrush. If it be thy will, O Lord.

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(no subject) - [info]demonoflight, 2009-05-21 02:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]spawn_of_kong, 2009-05-23 03:46 am UTC

[info]fevered_ego
2009-05-20 06:49 pm UTC (link)
Man, I've been involved in this since the first couple of pages and it just gets crazier and crazier. Dan Lirette came and played with us for a few dozen pages but his attempt to ingratiate the goons was quickly abandoned when they kept catching the sociopathic fucktard in lies about his changed ways. Then he managed to fuck up a BanMe by posting the autoban thread labels as images within the post itself, rather than choosing any of them.

The songs coming out of this have been pretty good, though. The poor not-kid and her mentally shattered mother get my sympathy because they're suffering so pointlessly, but Dan Lirette is a Danny Lirette zombaby dad something awful anencephaly scumbag who deserves the googlebombing he has received for being an empathy-lacking fuckhead. He's living it up and joking around with SA and playing internet sociologist while Myah sits at home alone caring for the dying baby he abandoned. Fucker even tried to pay her to abort their kid (before the diagnosis) and went right back to preaching hellfire in local Walmart parking lots.

The anencephaly is genetic and I know which parent she gets it from.

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[info]meriel
2009-05-21 10:49 am UTC (link)
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3121857&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=162

Baby is shitting and puking blood, and has a swollen stomach, so this could be close to the end for Faith

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[info]demonoflight
2009-05-21 02:36 pm UTC (link)
This is where I hope the poor thing really doesn't feel any pain. =(

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[info]risha
2009-05-21 09:30 pm UTC (link)
I just checked back on this thread for the first time in a couple of days, and now I feel like crap again. D: Oh my god, that poor child.

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[info]spawn_of_kong
2009-05-23 03:51 am UTC (link)
Dear God, I hope the end comes soon. No one deserves to go through that (well, maybe the father...), least of all the poor kid. Abortion really would have much more merciful.

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[info]ladysphinx
2009-05-21 03:04 pm UTC (link)
Okay, having trudged through all the links (dear JF-girl in previous thread who asked not to see any pictures: you were right, and if you do follow links here I hope you got that image-block programme to work), I think this guy Dan is not just an asshole, but possibly a no-joke full-blown sociopath.


Also, after seeing several times in this thread (no images) that Dan, rather than answer any questions, chose instead to refer people to contact his pastor, I really, really wonder if anyone's taken him up on that offer yet.

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[info]talec
2009-05-23 04:09 am UTC (link)
I had a dream last night that this entire thread, and situation turned out to be a really intense viral marketing campaign for prenatal vitamins. They just came out, and said, "See! This is what happens when you don't take folic acid!" There was no faith, no Myah, and Dan turned out to be a team of goons that this company hired to bait us on...

Wouldn't it be awesome if that was true, and none of this was really happening?
-- here

Yeah. :B

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[info]ladysphinx
2009-05-24 01:50 am UTC (link)
Small, sad update: Baby Faith has died, aged 93 days.

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[info]caito
2009-05-24 04:22 am UTC (link)
Added to the main post with a link to Myah's blog. I'm actually relieved for both of their sakes, a little.

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[info]talec
2009-05-24 07:22 am UTC (link)
:salute:

Here's a thread (also on SA) to help you restore your faith in humanity.

Also, Chickam 2009!

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