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Amaltheia ([info]amaltheia) wrote in [info]unfunnybusiness,
@ 2009-06-06 15:30:00


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The return of [info]theferrett
(Some wording stolen from the wank report)

What do you do when a large portion of the internet is up in arms over the promotion of violence towards transgendered children? If you're [info]theferrett you decided to entertain you FList with a "humourous" post on your obscure secret talent, developed from watching hours of porn.*

"I can now identify the difference between an actual female and a male-to-female transsexual at a glance. I don't even need to look at their bits; just a glance at their face, no matter how made up, is enough for me to go, "Yup, there's a weener lurking there."

Initial commenters are amused, and then a couple point out there may be a few issues with what he's written, so he edits the post.

Shortly after that he deletes the post entirely and posts an apology.

"The fact is that what I was saying was being seen as saying the exact opposite of what I intended, and when I'm putting things that badly the correct response is to step back, analyze, and process. I don't mind taking shit for my beliefs. I do mind it when my beliefs are being put so poorly that it seems like I'm saying something that I never intended."

Sometime after that he deletes his journal. But it's OK, girlfriend [info]zoethe is here to tell us "Yeah, fuck each and every last whiny one of you. You make me sick."

She then posts again to insist that it was the duty of the offended transexuals to teach [info]theferrett how not to be an ignorant fuckhead. Oh. and to make the tone argument.

Bets on how quickly [info]theferrett will undelete his journal?

ETAHis journal is undeleted, with a single entry. Thanks [info]darksumomo



*I know that it's entirely possible he didn't know about the whole KRXQ situation, but the timing is really shitty.



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[info]t_boy
2009-06-06 04:31 pm UTC (link)

Same here. [info]theferrett‘s an LJ institution.

What? What institution would that be? The LiveJournal Institute of Fucking Up and Then Fucking Up The Attempt To Rectify The First Fuck-Up? The College of Internet Butthurt? The School of Getting Your Girlfriend To Chastise You Barbarians For Hurting Her Pwecious Baby?

Is he the alumni of the same school that Patrick Nielsen Hayden graduated from?

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(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-06-06 04:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]t_boy, 2009-06-06 04:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-06-06 05:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2009-06-06 05:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]t_boy, 2009-06-06 06:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2009-06-06 07:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jyuu, 2009-06-07 03:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]t_boy, 2009-06-07 04:43 am UTC

[info]temaris
2009-06-06 04:38 pm UTC (link)
Wow. His SO manages to cram in the tone argument, oppression olympics, the nice guy argument, and the 'it's your responsibility to teach me about my privilege' statement. We're just racing through those bingo cards.

If someone wants to offer an apology it works out a lot better if the apology continues to be visible rather than a third party insisting it exists whilst simultaneously insisting no apology was necessary.

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[info]snarkhunter
2009-06-06 04:42 pm UTC (link)
I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you, that such unspeakable awkwardness and disregard for the personhood of others is coming from [info]theferrett. Good heavens, what is this world coming to?

Maybe he was leading up to a proposal wherein he would be permitted to "verify" the trans status of every woman he came across by fondling her boobs. All in the name of science and celebration of the female form, of course.

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(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-06-06 04:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]snarkhunter, 2009-06-06 05:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-06-06 05:07 pm UTC
Flames! On the side of my FACE! - [info]bubosquared, 2009-06-07 03:21 am UTC
Re: Flames! On the side of my FACE! - [info]notjo, 2009-06-07 04:43 am UTC
Re: Flames! On the side of my FACE! - [info]bubosquared, 2009-06-08 12:15 am UTC

[info]arionhunter
2009-06-06 04:42 pm UTC (link)
Personal Unofficial Internet Rule: People who end sanctimonious, lecture-y posts with quotes from their Elderly Wise Person of Choice are almost universally also themselves sanctimonious pricks who do not follow said advice. Double points if the post is about their own privilege.

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(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2009-06-06 05:19 pm UTC
dear theferret:
[info]deconcentrate
2009-06-06 04:45 pm UTC (link)
I can now identify the difference between a man and a dick attached to legs at a glance. I don't even need to look at their blog; just a glance at their logic, no matter how made up, is enough for me to go, "Yup, there's a fuckhead lurking there."

Thank you for teaching me how.

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Re: dear theferret: - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-06-06 04:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]persona, 2009-06-06 06:00 pm UTC
Re: dear theferret: - [info]felinephoenix, 2009-06-06 10:45 pm UTC
Re: dear theferret: - [info]deliciouschaos, 2009-06-07 12:30 am UTC
Re: dear theferret: - [info]kumquat_of_doom, 2009-06-08 12:31 am UTC

[info]lerefuge
2009-06-06 04:54 pm UTC (link)
OMG Kibbles is in there talking about the 'retarded' wank. I lol forever.

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(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2009-06-06 08:26 pm UTC

[info]issendai
2009-06-06 05:00 pm UTC (link)
*sigh*

Original post: Fail.

Apology and later reaction to critical comments: Nice save. Fuck up, get it pointed out to you, go, "Oh, shit, that was dumb and not my true intention," and attempt to rectify error. Not bad at all. This is The Right Way to Handle Unintentional Fuckups.

All the people leaping to his defense while and after he apologized: FAIL. BUCKETS AND BUCKETS OF FAIL.

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(no subject) - [info]queencallipygos, 2009-06-06 06:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]goblin, 2009-06-07 09:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2009-06-08 12:19 am UTC

[info]footsie
2009-06-06 05:01 pm UTC (link)
Oh, Cuthwald.

Oops, wrong terminal dumbass.

Oh, ferrett.

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[info]lady_ganesh
2009-06-06 05:03 pm UTC (link)
The thing is is that when it comes to the transsexual community it's very hard to figure out what will offend members of that community and what will not.

Oh my fucking God.

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(no subject) - [info]amaltheia, 2009-06-06 05:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-06-06 05:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2009-06-06 05:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-06-06 05:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2009-06-06 05:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rimrunner, 2009-06-07 10:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]amaltheia, 2009-06-06 05:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]veleda_k, 2009-06-06 07:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]t_boy, 2009-06-06 05:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-06-06 05:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]t_boy, 2009-06-06 05:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bigbigtruck, 2009-06-07 12:50 am UTC
(no subject) - ariadne484, 2009-06-07 06:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]t_boy, 2009-06-07 06:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]airborne_rodent, 2009-06-06 09:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kita0610, 2009-06-06 09:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bigbigtruck, 2009-06-07 12:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]barankhy, 2009-06-07 10:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hyaenid, 2009-06-06 06:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-06-06 06:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hyaenid, 2009-06-06 06:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-06-07 01:06 am UTC

[info]bienegold
2009-06-06 05:07 pm UTC (link)
Cry moar, as they say.

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[info]persona
2009-06-06 06:04 pm UTC (link)
I can't believe he hasn't learned to keep his mouth firmly shut by now...

No, wait. I take that back, actually; I can believe it, unfortunately. He must be a glutton for punishment.

(I'll put a few dollars down on his journal being back within two days).

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[info]also_not_a_pipe
2009-06-06 07:30 pm UTC (link)
Well, shoot. All the thinly veiled transphobia and "I'm a pretty pretty princess, how dare you ask to be allowed in my cloud palace!" flouncing over there is taking away from my glee that Ferrett is finally gone.

I'm kind of afraid to read my LJ friends list, because a bunch of my LJ friends are fans and/or friends of his, and I just don't even want to know what they're saying about this.

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(no subject) - [info]bienegold, 2009-06-06 08:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-06-07 01:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bienegold, 2009-06-07 03:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-06-07 01:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ajatshatru, 2009-06-07 04:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ms_treesap, 2009-06-07 06:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2009-06-08 08:42 pm UTC

[info]nostariel
2009-06-06 08:19 pm UTC (link)
I have had some trans or dating-trans people write to me and say that they read the original post and thought it was funny
The trans lurkers support [info]zoethe in email!

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(no subject) - [info]veleda_k, 2009-06-06 08:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nostariel, 2009-06-07 01:03 am UTC

[info]notjo
2009-06-06 08:26 pm UTC (link)
Facists!!!!

*sigh*

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(no subject) - [info]microclimate, 2009-06-06 08:45 pm UTC

[info]veleda_k
2009-06-06 08:39 pm UTC (link)
Well, it's so confusing trying to figure what will offend trans people!

Will referring to cisgender women as "actual" women be offensive? After all, all you did was imply that transwomen are "fake."

Might someone dislike the fixation on "bits" and "weeners"? It's only a reminder of the fact that society considers our genitals public domain and obsesses over them.

And how about the very idea that we need to be "identified"? When someone says that can always identify a [insert oppressed group here], the subtext is that this group needs to be pointed out, because it's threatening to have them blend in with so-called "normal" people. And in the case of trans people, it implies that there's something not natural about us.

So, fuck you, [info]theferret.

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(no subject) - [info]veleda_k, 2009-06-06 09:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chikane, 2009-06-06 09:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kita0610, 2009-06-06 09:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]spudsey, 2009-06-06 10:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]veleda_k, 2009-06-06 10:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-06-07 01:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]blue_penguin, 2009-06-08 04:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kita0610, 2009-06-06 09:55 pm UTC

[info]sadisticferret
2009-06-06 08:58 pm UTC (link)
So not surprised that this asshattery is coming from [info]theferrett. He makes me ashamed to have the word ferret in my username.

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[info]sandglass
2009-06-06 10:22 pm UTC (link)
The mascara will not hide you, my friend; with voyeuristic intention, well secluded, I see all.

Yeah, I can't imagine why anyone would find that the least bit creepy.

I have known a lot of people in my life, and most of them have been reasonable, polite, and shown at least a modicum of empathy for others.

Alas, all those people fade into the background. It's the assholes and jerks who make themselves known.


Guess who's going to stick in my mind for a good long time?

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(no subject) - [info]xero_sky, 2009-06-06 11:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chibikaijuu, 2009-06-07 04:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mmanurere, 2009-06-07 04:39 am UTC

[info]darksumomo
2009-06-06 10:34 pm UTC (link)
His journal has been undeleted and he has a new post up.

http://theferrett.livejournal.com/1289105.html

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(no subject) - [info]sandglass, 2009-06-06 11:03 pm UTC

[info]felinephoenix
2009-06-06 10:46 pm UTC (link)
Wow, I am so shocked at this stunning display of insensitivity and privileged wankiness. No, not from Open Source Boob Guy!

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(no subject) - [info]lydiabell, 2009-06-07 05:44 am UTC

[info]lilgoala
2009-06-07 12:43 am UTC (link)
Jesus Christ I fucking hate that guy. He is the biggest douchenozzle on the Internet, seriously.

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[info]fern_on_fen
2009-06-07 02:19 am UTC (link)
Help, I think I've become jaded! I went, "Yes, it's offensive, but couldn't it be MORE offensive?"

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[info]ajatshatru
2009-06-07 03:27 am UTC (link)
Apparently, he's 'an LJ institution' *Snort*

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[info]notjo
2009-06-07 04:37 am UTC (link)
Gosh, someone pity the poor white dude. He just wants to do good, damn it, and we should all coddle him while he tries. Poor poor white dude.

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[info]ajatshatru
2009-06-07 05:05 am UTC (link)
'My goal is, and has always been, to promote harmony, peace, love, acceptance, and tolerance.' - 'rodent'

Spock-wannabe, much ?

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[info]issendai
2009-06-07 05:40 am UTC (link)
So. Um. Has there ever been a wank when there was real doubt whether someone who deleted their journal would undelete it?

I ask in all seriousness, because enough wankas take these threats seriously. Just think of Teresa Nielsen Hayden herself, a woman who prides herself on her mastery of the social workings of the Internet, wailing that Patrick was goooooooooone. And yet I can't remember a single wank in which someone deleted their journal, kept it deleted, and didn't open a new journal on the sly to keep wanking.

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(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2009-06-07 05:46 am UTC


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