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The Mad Bishounen ([info]jkefka) wrote in [info]unfunnybusiness,
@ 2009-06-29 17:16:00


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Warnings Wank 2: Electric Clusterfuck
This shit be ugly y'all.

Following the previous 1000 comment unfunnybusiness post there have been some further entries to the fail-lympics, and to make things slightly easier and spare [info]doriangray's inbox I'm making a new post.


First, an update that didn't make it into the original post: [info]wistfuljane posts an open letter to zvi, thanks to [info]ingrid for linking it. There is, naturally, more wank in the comments.

Now for some new stuff. From [info]wank_report, the mousies found a couple of new posts on the issue, each one with its own wank. The first definitely has more than the second, starting with a lovely quote in the post:

"2. If you're that mentally and emotionally fragile, you probably shouldn't be reading fic at all. Or watching television. Or reading regular novels. And for god's sake, you'd better get off the internet right now."

That turns into a nice little teal deer wankfest in the comments.

There is some voice of reason in both posts. It is far too dilute to be of any good.

Finally, we have an added enormous clusterfuck inside the house. [info]esorlehcar and [info]oulangi get into a monstrously ugly fight in the comments of the first post. I don't even know, kids, I really don't.


And that's the ugliness. Anyone else has major developments they want to link put 'em in the comments, I'll try to keep up but I make no guarantees.

ETA 1: [info]agent_hyatt reports further wank inside the house. On a completely ADD note, I really need to figure out if I can do that Il Pallazzo cosplay.....

ETA 2: [info]caoilainn drops us a couple more links with plenty of wank to go around. Enormous clusterfuck is ENORMOUS.

ETA 3: More from inside the house, courtesy of [info]miss_padfoot. Here it's [info]misswindy talking about potential connections with racefail and setting off another hoard of teal deer.

ETA 4: A couple fresh links for you courtesy of [info]kelmendi and [info]esclaramonde! Aukestrel puts up an apology/flounce and zvi puts up what I might even call a genuine apology.

ETA 5: [info]sparklepuss brings us one more passenger on the failboat. ETA 5.5: And another.


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[info]esorlehcar
2009-06-30 07:40 pm UTC (link)
The thing is, there was really no need to post a three comment long lecture at the original author, especially after she'd apologized and added the warning. From what I saw, she wasn't those "fuck your pain, what about my artistic integrity!11" types, she just made a mistake out of ignorance, and copped to it. It just seemed like plain old shit stirring to come in after the fact with guns blazing like that.

The thing is, though, pretty much everyone, including the people who had originally asked for warnings on the story, roundly condemned those comments (which, yes, were wanky and accusatory as hell, and a really shitty way to treat an author who had behaved admirably in the situation). Had [info]ficsoreal and her friends not then gotten involved to complain about how horribly they'd been treated when there response to a similar request was, in effect, "Fuck you, the whole point is for you to be shocked and upset" (and then suggested [info]arsenicjade was treated differently not because of her response was entirely different but because she was a BNF), the whole thing would have died right there.

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[info]kylenne
2009-06-30 08:48 pm UTC (link)
Oh, totally. Up till the point where the cavalry rode in, I don't think there was anything wrong with what happened--and, hell, at least one person learned from the goings on, which is a good thing IMO.

What really makes the cartoon steam come out of my ears about this whole thing is this "zomg you're attacking us!!11" bullshit is coming from people who have loudly declared how much don't give a damn about other people's feelings. It's like they think being called out on your internet fuckery and being embarrassed is somehow worse than being reminded of trauma because some "edgy" asshole didn't want to take two seconds to put a label on a fic. Seriously, wtf.

Relatedly, that "I didn't sign up for a commune" shit needs to DIAF post haste. None of us did, but I had no idea not being a dick to others was so difficult and such an imposition on these people. Maybe we need to start a commune.

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[info]alya1989262
2009-07-01 04:25 pm UTC (link)
I did not sign up for other people existing. Why do I have to be considerate of their feelings? :(

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