calling out sexism. Just like they did in Salem, Mass.!
I am Saint Ignucius of the church of emacs. I bless your computer, my child.
if you become a hacker you can celebrate that by having a foobar mitzvah, a ceremony in which the new hacker stands in front of the assembled congregation of hackers and chants through the lines of the system source code. And we also have the cult of the virgin of emacs. The virgin of emacs is any female who has not yet learned how to use emacs. And in the church of emacs we believe that taking her emacs virginity away is a blessed act.'Lefty' Schlesinger blogs about the virgin-deflowering bit, while others are shocked, shocked that people can be offended, since RMS has given the same speech many times and no one has ever said anything. Which is totally inspiring confidence in the lack of sexism in the community. And just like everywhere on the Internet, comments get rage-inducing:
Blah blah blah. This kind of whiny bullshit about unimportant details is exactly why women should be left out in the cold. Not just in the open source movement but in every job where the semantic of how and when something was told to them becomes more important than just doing your fucking job. Real programmers male or female program. Whoever wrote this is not a programmer. They just here to collect attention. Nothing to see here.Later he emails RMS asking for an apology for the sexism and gets practically ignored.
The closest thing he said that might be called 'responding':> I'm honestly a little surprised--amazed, really--that > you managed to completely ignore the three central > paragraphs which I identified as being the core of my > concerns, choosing instead to focus on the side issue of > the anti-religious bent of your "St. IGNUcius" routine. I did respond to the other points, just more briefly.
I do not believe I owe anyone an apology. I did not insult or attack them, but it is clear some people are attacking me. I think I am being criticized unjustly criticized, and I feel I have been wronged.People in comments again tell Schlesinger he is Wrong but now add that he really, really shouldn't have published private emails on his blog without asking permission. (But he talked to an Internet Lawyer, so it's okay!)
There's also a few rebuttals like these:
Frankly I find it sexist that you think women are so fragile that you need to filter what they hear in case they are offended. He didn't mean anything by it and caused no material harm.
Evidently the irony of men running to the defense of women, Prince Charming-style, all in the name of combating alleged sexism (which has become rather like all the other -isms that we don't like, in that we begin seeing them where they probably don't exist), is completely lost on you.An argument which shows up in other blogs:
We’re the ones who fight for freedom every day. Let’s try to give people the freedom of speech even if we think they are wrong.
You know what is sexist? Treating all the women among us as a weaker sex. As another species. Now that’s sexism. It sure makes one feel special. But special as in that cute retarded kid next door everyone says "hi" to.
But apparently the one true answer to this whole issue is irony.
Because Stallman is ironically portraying religion as sexist, he, in facts, critics sexism in religion, so accusing him of being sexist is a bit ridiculous...Yes, it's entirely about the cult of the Virgin Mary. Garrett is sure convinced:
I'm entirely unconvinced by the argument that this is purely a reference to religion, given that he seems to be referring to Mary and it's certainly not catholic doctrine for people to relieve her of her virginity!Chani has a thoughtful post about the offensiveness of the speech as well (and she's female, does that mean it's okay now?), and explains things very civilly to the head-desky comments she gets ("this is a witch hunt"! "You’re persecuting him"! Seriously.), while conspiracy theories about the real motivations of Schlesinger for speaking up about this abound. Many comments of course just choose to complain about him filling Planet Gnome with his anti-sexism posts instead of talking about widgets like God intended.
Bonus, someone links to a... special Phoronix article from June:
that is neither, not the last, sexist comment from someone in the community (i mean, except obvious lousy jokes). Look at that for instance http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=nAnd another of the comments had a contextless reference to a past failure:
Is this just a rehash of the insensitivity to women mess from the 'code like a pornstar' Ruby conference some months back?No idea what that one was about yet. But apparently someone made a Bingo card!
More blog links: A much better summary than mine, Monotonous is all for fighting sexism, rodrigo thinks it isn't there, and uraeus insists that sexism cannot be to blame for anything short of a trail of bloody footprints leading to sexism's front door.
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