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Captain Awesomepants ([info]bobafeis) wrote in [info]unfunnybusiness,
@ 2009-07-24 20:14:00


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Current mood:Peeved

Once again, the publishing world just doesn't get it
Justine Larbalestier wrote a YA book called Liar which is due to be released by Bloomsbury this September. It's one of the most anticipated new YA releases coming up and has been getting a lot of press about the story it has to tell, the quality of its writing, its massive... print run, and one minor problem with the cover that readers have picked up on: The protagonist is clearly described as mixed-race, with her skin tone very close to her black father's. The book's (admittedly striking) cover shows her... otherwise.

The author and the rest of the publishing blagosphere do not approve.

Bloomsbury's response? That they were "striving for ambiguity" and that the compulsive liar main character was quite possibly lying about her race. Even though the author never intended that the character's race be the slightest bit in question.

Be warned: there's quite a bit more fail in some of the comment threads, as some authors completely miss the point and chime in with "oh, my main character is a brunette and on the cover she's blonde!. I feel your pain!"



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[info]isaiddietpepsi
2009-07-25 04:31 am UTC (link)
Ok, am I the only one who doesn't find that cover striking or arresting at all? It's boring. A girl staring into the camera, hair covering her face. How exciting. Except not. I get absolutely no sense of what the story is about from that cover. Two thumbs down.

That said, nice save, Bloomsbury! *rolls eyes*

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[info]somnambulicious
2009-07-25 05:34 am UTC (link)
Yeah, there's absolutely nothing about that cover that would make me pick it up. The Australian cover, on the other hand, would definitely catch my eye in a YA section.

I know absolutely nothing about Justine Larbalestier, but after reading her take on the cover, I kind of love her.

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[info]cygnia
2009-07-25 04:33 am UTC (link)
Yeesh. I wasn't aware that authors had little to no say about covers.

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[info]shadwing
2009-07-25 04:42 pm UTC (link)
Most author's are happy if the cover looks nice and their name is spelled right. See the mayhem around the infamous 'Three Armed Woman Cover'

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[info]evilsqueakers
2009-07-25 09:04 pm UTC (link)
I know that Eileen Wilks was thrilled when she scored Patricia Briggs cover artist because she felt it fit the style better than some of the earlier "5 seconds in Photoshop" previous ones. I've noticed that Jeanine Frost is also thrilled when her covers are pretty and even more so when you open it and it's a well-done scene. Yasmine Galenorn loves hers and he commissioned work for her and then let her sell some stuff in the Brenda Novak Auction. I say these because I've read the praise. From what I've noticed, it's a very luck of the draw and hope it works out well.

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[info]silrana
2009-07-26 05:12 pm UTC (link)
I can't remember exactly where, but on one of the writers' forums I frequent, I ran across this little song-

"There's a bimbo on the cover of my book,
There's a bimbo on the cover of my book,
She is busty, blonde and sexy,
She is nowhere in the text, she
Is the bimbo on the cover of my book."

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[info]inalasahl
2009-07-25 04:46 am UTC (link)
Is anyone else also bothered by the fact that her mouth is covered? I get that she's a liar, which I'd think would be portrayed best by an open mouth. All I'm getting from this cover is a subtle "girls should be mute" message.

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[info]ruslan
2009-07-25 07:22 am UTC (link)
I've been told before that people will compulsively cover their mouths when they're lying. Like if somebody's talking to you with their chin in their hand and their fingers or their palm covering their mouth, they may be bullshitting you. Don't know if it's true or just an old wives tale, but there might be something psychologically that associates a covered mouth with lying.

It's still a silly cover to me. She looks like she's trying to strangle herself with her own hair.

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[info]khym_chanur
2009-07-25 05:43 am UTC (link)
its massive...

tracts of land?

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[info]iamnotyourmuse
2009-07-25 05:51 am UTC (link)
When I was little I remember going to see Lynne Reid Banks talk at a local bookstore. She was asked about one of her book covers and explained the whole deal where authors don't get much input and artists often don't get to read the book. That was over 20 years ago. Great to know nothing's changed much since then.

That stuck with me though, and I've always taken covers with a grain of salt since then.

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[info]kelmendi
2009-07-25 04:47 pm UTC (link)
Not only do artists not read the books, sometimes the publisher will reassign a cover to another book for no apparent reason (at least, that's what Lois McMaster Bujold says happened with the first cover for 'Warrior's Apprentice').

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[info]tiye
2009-07-25 06:20 am UTC (link)
When I was about 13, I read a young adult sci-fi book (the name of which escapes me completely) with a protagonist who was described as dark-haired and somewhat dark skinned, stocky, and very flat-chested. The cover showed a willowy blonde girl with big blue eyes and pronounced (naked!) breasts. It drove me nuts. I'd get annoyed every time I picked up the book and looked at the cover.

Aside from the fact that it simply wasn't an honest portrayal of the character, which is frankly distracting during the reading experience, I really liked the fact that the character was not white or traditionally attractive. I felt that it did the character injustice and took away from how interesting and realistic she was to present her so untruthfully on the cover. And yes, I was a middle-class white teenage girl, the primary audience that these publishers seem to be aiming for. I would like to think that I was/am not totally atypical.

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[info]_goblin_
2009-07-25 06:39 am UTC (link)
I read a science fiction book (admittedly, not a very good one) that featured a beautiful, large-breasted black woman as the protagonist.

On the cover? A beautiful, large-breasted white woman.

I mean, the book was crap. How much could it have hurt sales to be honest? They likely could have picked up readers for that piece of sexist dung if they'd put a black woman on the cover.

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[info]bubosquared
2009-07-25 10:39 am UTC (link)
I had a similar experience with Elizabeth Moon's Serrano Legacy series. I read the first three books, and Heris Serrano is pretty obviously of African descent, even if it isn't said in so many words. It's far future SF, so race as such isn't noticed the way it is now, but she's described as being dark-skinned, and there's mention of her aunt having braids and such -- fairly obvious once you pick up on it, really.

The covers show a woman whose skin is lighter than mine, and I've been known to burn even in the absense of direct sunlight.

(She also appears to be in her early 30s at most, when the book explicitly says she's in her mid- to late 40s, but that's just icing on the cake at that point.)

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[info]mary_mac
2009-07-25 03:01 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, Ursula Le Guin's suffered that too. I was very confused by the second Earthsea book's cover as a kid, because the first one was a black and white line drawing, so Ged was not a colour at all, but he fitted the physical description in the book otherwise. The second (possibly older, possibly just different edition)...he sure as hell wasn't 'red-brown'. And he was kind of pretty. Ged is not pretty. Ever.

Now I have the lovely omnibus edition with the painted cover done by a person who has read the book.

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[info]kelmendi
2009-07-25 04:55 pm UTC (link)
The thing that's especially crazy-making is knowing that the cover character being white means that lots of clueless white readers will assume the actual character is white unless the book specifically (and really, really obviously - 'dark skin' can be interpreted as 'tan') states that they aren't.

Just look at all the people on fandom_secrets who thought the main characters in "Anansi Boys" were white, and they had a cover that has no people on it at all.

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[info]ruslan
2009-07-25 07:11 am UTC (link)
I'd like to say that I can't believe this shit is still going on because of how far we've come regarding equality and understanding and everything.

But actually, I can't believe this shit is still going on because they can't keep manga and other assorted bits of Eastern pop culture on the shelves these days, and they're not only selling to people of Asian descent. (Look at that! Youth aren't fatally allergic to media featuring people who don't share their ethnicity! Who'd've thunk it?) You'd think somebody in publishing would have noticed by now.

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[info]isaiddietpepsi
2009-07-25 07:26 am UTC (link)
I can't believe this shit is still going on because they can't keep manga and other assorted bits of Eastern pop culture on the shelves these days, and they're not only selling to people of Asian descent. (Look at that! Youth aren't fatally allergic to media featuring people who don't share their ethnicity! Who'd've thunk it?)

Yeah, but have you seen the reactions of some people with respect to The Last Airbender movie? If anything, it's shown me that a bunch of people still believe that anime skews toward white/Caucasian features.

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[info]ellensmithee
2009-07-25 07:42 am UTC (link)
Ugh, Bloomsbury's statement sounds like they're hoping people will think she's a white character pretending to be black.

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[info]radiotrash
2009-07-25 08:29 am UTC (link)
....right I'm instead going to focus on how jarring USian is to read (I keep reading it as US Asian) and remembering the fond wank about USian versus American and how it was unfair to Canadians cause they're Americans as well dammit.

Aaah good times.

(Major fail on the publishers part though.)

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[info]dark_puck
2009-07-25 02:37 pm UTC (link)
....this does not at all make me hopeful for the urban fantasy I'm co-writing, wherein the protagonist driving the plot is (gasp! HORROR!) black. I swear to God, if it gets picked up and they put a white boy on the cover, or even IGNORE Lionel...

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(no subject) - [info]radiotrash, 2009-07-25 05:41 pm UTC

[info]nostariel
2009-07-26 04:21 am UTC (link)
Striving for ambiguity, my ass. Striving for white readers, more like. >:[

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[info]guillemette
2009-07-26 04:42 pm UTC (link)
*remembering confused teenage years* Finally, I get where the 100% beefcake Elric of Melniboné came from!

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[info]kosaginolegion
2009-07-27 05:14 am UTC (link)
One of the posters on Scalzi's blog commented that he resented the attitude of the publishers that readers wouldn't be open-minded enough to want to read a book about a black character.

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[info]ardath_rekha
2009-07-27 09:31 pm UTC (link)
Guh.

Great. The thing I'm working on at the moment has four main protagonists, and while two of them are caucasian, the third is black and the fourth is Iranian.

...Assuming I'm lucky enough to get it published, now I have to worry about my characters being whitewashed out of fundamental parts of their identities. Wonderful. Just freakin' wonderful.

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