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furbashing Jonn Wood ([info]mcity) wrote in [info]unfunnybusiness,
@ 2008-05-26 18:35:00
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Victim-blaming, take 10,234.
Then 15-year old Crystal Shinkle has sex with an older man. He is prosecuted for "lewd or lascivious battery" but the case is later dropped. Apparently, she had been in a relationship with him for several months, and he had given her alcohol and drugs. The case was dropped because she was one month away from the age of consent in Florida(16).

She posts a video to YouTube.

It being YouTube, the comments are filled with stupidity. The early comments are accuse her of being a fake, until other commenters point out that her case is real and a matter of public record. Others accuse her of being an attention whore. One, Michael Crook, keeps pimping http://www.crystalshinkle.com/. The site is, of course, a paragon of integrity and objectivity. Let's hear Mr. Crook's opinion on the matter.

Why do you care about this whore so much anyway?

I think Crystal should just write this experience off as what happens when you spread your legs, and just spend the rest of the life in her trailer, popping out babies.


Hmm.

Please note that one guy got banned after his first post, one with a quote from a legal website. Mr. Crook seems to spend much of the thread pretending that the laws people quote at him don't count.

Mildly creepy detail; CrystalA person, named Stacy, had a similar thing happen to her, and tried getting sympathy in chatrooms, until she realized the people on the other end were getting off on it.
EDIT: Minor correction. Thanks, Hallidae.

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[info]pipssister
2008-05-26 11:37 pm UTC (link)
I've decided now I'm not going to give that guy traffic figures. [sits on hands] What a crappy world we live in.

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[info]deliciouschaos
2008-05-26 11:47 pm UTC (link)
D:

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Yes, The Internet Is Listening. It Also Isn't Wearing Any Pants.
[info]t_boy
2008-05-27 12:17 am UTC (link)

“The next thing you know, they are making it seem like they are turned on. They were asking me for details of my rape. It was very disturbing,” she said. “I had to block several people. After that, I thought the worst of the world. I thought everyone was a perpetrator, and I trusted no one.”

Someone really needs to get work on The Internet and Dealing With Anonymous For Teenagers.

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Dealing With Anonymous For Teenagers
[info]mer1973
2008-05-27 01:16 am UTC (link)
The Internet owes you nothing.

The Internet is not your friend. It exists for porn. Not for your social networking site of your eye-blinding, soul destroying choice, but for porn. Got it?

If you are not careful you will end up as the Internet's porn. Do you really, really want to be the Internet's bitch?

You in the back, don't answer that. Just sit down and shut the fuck up.

No, really he doesn't love you. He just wants to fuck you. Sex does not equal love no matter what President Bush and Harlequin tells you.

He will not save you from your mean parents. He just wants to fuck you. See above, okay?

Do not post photos of yourself being an ass. If your parents don't find them, then someone else's parents will, and they'll forward them to your parents.

Do not expect sympathy from anyone on the Internet. It's nice if you get it, but most people are wankers. So, if life has damaged you, find a therapist and get help.

Do not look for validation on the Internet. Just don't. A third of us don't want to deal with your shit, another third will mock you and the remaining third might, might, validate you. The last that will probably feed your issues and lead to pain and woe, so just don't.

Tired now.

Someone else take over?

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Re: Dealing With Anonymous For Teenagers
[info]pocketfox
2008-05-27 01:34 am UTC (link)
Do not post photos of yourself being an ass. If your parents don't find them, then someone else's parents will, and they'll forward them to your parents.

In addition, remember that nothing, absolutely nothing, is ever truly gone from the Internet. Spooge stains are forever (Please refer to Heidipatrol if you think otherwise). Those pictures you posted on your MySpace of you being completely shitfaced and flashing a room of frat boys when you were seventeen? The ones you frantically deleted when you realized that yeah, you actually would like to get a job with [insert corporation/educational institution/etc here]?

They're still out there. And your prospective employer will find them. No, I promise, they will.

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Re: Dealing With Anonymous For Teenagers
[info]mcity
2008-05-27 01:37 am UTC (link)
Expect that anything you post on the Internet-short of keeping it password locked on an private FTP server*-is a matter of public record. Yes, even your flocked LJ posts.

*And maybe not even then.

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Re: Dealing With Anonymous For Teenagers
[info]beachlass
2008-05-27 12:40 pm UTC (link)
My kids occasionally come home with internet safety brochures from school. They're a joke. I've seen NOTHING as common-sensical (shut up, it is so a word) as this.

Have some chocolate cake.

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Re: Dealing With Anonymous For Teenagers
[info]mer1973
2008-05-27 11:28 pm UTC (link)
Cake!


You rock!

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Re: Dealing With Anonymous For Teenagers
[info]plazmah
2008-05-27 01:24 pm UTC (link)
Nothing to add except I want to frame this and pass it on to my non-existent childrens.

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Re: Yes, The Internet Is Listening. It Also Isn't Wearing Any Pants.
[info]velvet_mace
2008-05-27 01:33 am UTC (link)
I thought I had no one to talk to, but then I realized, I had the Internet," she said. "Sometimes, talking to people who were not close to me was refreshing because there was no judgment to face. If you talk to someone online, there's no judgment, right? How can they judge you when they don't even know you?"

My god, can anyone ever be wronger. The internet is incredibly judgmental and quick to jump to conclusions based on no evidence whatsoever. Sure you can find help groups, but you gotta be really really selective.

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Re: Yes, The Internet Is Listening. It Also Isn't Wearing Any Pants.
[info]utahraptor
2008-05-27 03:08 pm UTC (link)
Lesson number 1:
For the love of god, do not ever, ever seek for YouTube users to share their thoughts on yaoi. Unless Risk-Aware Consensual Kink turns you on.

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[info]hallidae
2008-05-27 12:22 am UTC (link)
A minor correction, because my brain is latching onto the pedantic to keep from screaming: Crystal's not the one in the last link who talks about people getting off on her rape, it's a different victim named Stacy.

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[info]mcity
2008-05-27 01:22 am UTC (link)
Corrected.

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[info]harcourt
2008-05-27 12:36 am UTC (link)
Crystal Shinkle??

Can one even measure the amounts to which her parents despised her?

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[info]mcity
2008-05-27 01:22 am UTC (link)
I know a girl named Kabrinka Tinker.

She just used "Kirby".

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[info]negativecosine
2008-05-27 07:19 am UTC (link)
That impostor!

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[info]notjo
2008-05-27 12:37 am UTC (link)
I hate so many of the people who are "responding" with "videos" that show they're "assholes".

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[info]dreamer_marie
2008-05-27 12:49 am UTC (link)
Oh, wow. Michael Crook is one horrible mysogynist. I hope he never has kids, because they surely don't deserve such a father.

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[info]mcity
2008-05-27 10:41 pm UTC (link)
To be fair, he managed to hide it for a page and a half of posts, until he realized that people kept using facts to counter his truthiness.

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[info]velvet_mace
2008-05-27 01:21 am UTC (link)
Where the hell are this girls parents? If anyone is saying loud and clear she's not ready to handle the world on her own, it's this girl, why the hell isn't someone stepping up to the bat and putting some kind of barrier between her and these creeps. It makes me mad that girls who ask for help like this aren't given it.

It may seem like punishment, but honestly, I think she'd do well not to be on the internet at all, at least until she can spend some time with a psychiatrist and worked out some of her self-respect problems. The last thing she needs is joe-asshole on youtube weighing in on her self-worth.

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[info]mcity
2008-05-27 01:28 am UTC (link)
Apparently, she's living with her father now. He may have been the one who encouraged her to go to the cops in the first place.

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[info]velvet_mace
2008-05-27 01:34 am UTC (link)
Well that's a plus. Now he needs to take away her internet access, because seriously, she doesn't need this shit, and that's all the internet is going to give her.

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[info]sisterelwood
2008-05-27 03:13 am UTC (link)
If this girl is telling the truth about being raped then someone did her a severe disservice in not getting her to say so when the prosecutor was originally looking into the case. From reading a bit of the police interview it looks like her wavering back and forth and not coming straight out and saying, "He raped me," may have doomed her claim. Harsh reality is that if it looks like she was getting something out of the deal then it may been seen as consensual.

HOWEVER- considering she was under the age of consent that debate should have been moot-

I'm troubled by the fact that the prosecutor in this case didn't go after the 23-year-old because the girl was only one month shy of 16. That puts out there that there is a flexibility to statutory rape laws and then where do we say the flexibility ends? Statutory rape laws are supposed to mean if you have sex with someone under this age that person is unable to give consent and therefore it is automatically rape. They're treating this more like a case of two consenting adults and it's obviously not. A 15-year-old is not going to have the same reasoning and experience that a 23-year-old will have and the law is supposed to protect the child from his or herself.

Even more worrisome is the fact that this girl was at that party to begin with. She should not have been at a party where someone who was eight years older than her was going to be. And why is she on the internet, opening herself up to more harassment? That girl needs help and her parents need to wake up and do something before she gets herself killed.

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[info]damien
2008-05-27 04:47 am UTC (link)
Wow. How much do I hate Mr. Crook? It's nearly a tie between him and the actual assaulter for the sheer level of screaming WANT-TO-KILL that this induces.

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[info]chaimonkey
2008-05-27 05:41 am UTC (link)
Ah, the old argument of only chaste little virgins can be raped. Thank you, Mr. Crook, for reaffirming my hatred of humanity!

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[info]chibikaijuu
2008-05-27 10:08 pm UTC (link)
ASKJHKJS "Drug possession: more of a crime than rape."

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