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Pyrate Jenni ([info]pyratejenni) wrote in [info]unfunnybusiness,
@ 2008-05-28 23:02:00


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Current mood:*Snarl*
Entry tags:fandom is fucking stupid, it's okay if i don't like you, jesus wept

At least SA goons are honest trolls, or, Fandom double-standards FTL
Over the years, the unspoken rule of fandom "What happens in fandom, stays in fandom." You don't contact a fan's place of employment, university, etc. unless it's serious shit -- "serious shit" meaning illegal or life-threatening, not fannish wars or bruised egos.

Apparently, not anymore.

[info]hypersurfaces posted a con report about WisCon that focused on the obesity of the con attendees on the Something Awful board . The post is seriously unfunny and full of fail. She later had the post deleted, but it was later reposted at a related site, Something Awful Sychophant Squad.


Attendees on Wiscon discover the post, and all hell breaks loose. Massive amounts of rage, including posts (locked and the source for this didn't get caps) of several people threatening [info]hypersurfaces about how they would hurt/STAB her if they saw her on the street. [info]hypersurfaces is forever and ever banned from WisCon. But not content with that, people -- including [info]badgerbag -- find her real name, her school, and write to her dean saying she was violating the schools sexual harrassment policy. I'm not posting the link because it has her real name in it, and I like my permanent account here too much to risk the ToS.

[info]hypersurfaces real name and real info are posted all over by fen who have previously rallied against that sort of thing - because in this case, she clearly deserves it. The casual threats of violence are astounding, and now apparently people are writing her and saying they're going to hurt/kill her - using the real name/addresses so thoughtfully provided by the angry wisconners. Kudos to the mod there for at least stepping up and telling people to knock the shit out.

But nada about this behavior from fen normally so worried about community standards, like [info]coffeeandink.

So it's okay now to post people's real names and similar information, as long as they do something that really, really pisses you off. Because they deserve it.

ETA: Clarified where [info]hypersurfaces's post originally went up.




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*angry overweight feminist time*
[info]iwanttobeasleep
2008-05-29 04:10 am UTC (link)
[picture of fat person]
^This is what a feminist looks like.

I'm kinda siding with my fellow Wisconsinites right now, honestly. Die in a fire, you malignant fucktard (but not fer realz even though I want you to!).

I'm assuming this is the original "report"?

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Re: *angry overweight feminist time* - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 04:20 am UTC
Re: *angry overweight feminist time* - [info]iwanttobeasleep, 2008-05-29 04:22 am UTC
Re: *angry overweight feminist time* - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 04:27 am UTC
Re: *angry overweight feminist time* - [info]iwanttobeasleep, 2008-05-29 04:36 am UTC
Re: *angry overweight feminist time* - [info]risha, 2008-05-29 04:52 am UTC
... - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 05:14 am UTC
... - [info]lab, 2008-05-29 02:01 pm UTC
... - [info]risha, 2008-05-29 02:35 pm UTC
Re: *angry overweight feminist time* - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 04:55 am UTC
Re: *angry overweight feminist time* - [info]oulangi, 2008-05-29 09:29 am UTC
Re: *angry overweight feminist time* - [info]ladyvorkosigan, 2008-05-29 11:11 am UTC
... - [info]oulangi, 2008-05-29 11:44 am UTC
Re: *angry overweight feminist time* - [info]karmakaze, 2008-05-29 01:07 pm UTC
... - [info]chaimonkey, 2008-05-29 11:10 pm UTC
... - [info]karmakaze, 2008-05-30 01:24 am UTC
... - [info]chaimonkey, 2008-05-30 02:17 am UTC
Re: *angry overweight feminist time* - [info]esclaramonde, 2008-05-29 12:01 pm UTC
Re: *angry overweight feminist time* - [info]chaimonkey, 2008-05-29 11:01 am UTC

[info]t_boy
2008-05-29 04:18 am UTC (link)
Because nothing elevates your cause like hurling death-threats at other people.

Well done. At least you're learning something from the Islamists.

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(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 04:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]t_boy, 2008-05-29 04:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 04:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]t_boy, 2008-05-29 04:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dez_chan, 2008-05-29 06:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]twoiskewl, 2008-05-29 04:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]t_boy, 2008-05-29 05:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ealusaid, 2008-05-29 06:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]t_boy, 2008-05-29 09:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ealusaid, 2008-05-29 09:56 am UTC
... - [info]beachlass, 2008-05-29 01:07 pm UTC
... - [info]ladyvorkosigan, 2008-05-29 04:50 pm UTC
... - [info]ealusaid, 2008-05-30 03:47 am UTC
... - [info]panthea, 2008-05-31 09:51 pm UTC
... - [info]funwithrage, 2008-05-29 03:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]imp, 2008-05-29 09:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]t_boy, 2008-05-29 09:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]imp, 2008-05-29 09:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]t_boy, 2008-05-29 09:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]imp, 2008-05-29 10:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]herongale, 2008-05-29 10:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]imp, 2008-05-29 10:36 am UTC
... - [info]herongale, 2008-05-29 11:00 am UTC
... - [info]herongale, 2008-05-29 11:05 am UTC
... - [info]imp, 2008-05-29 11:59 am UTC
... - [info]ladybirdsleeps, 2008-05-29 05:01 pm UTC
What the HELL? - [info]oulangi, 2008-05-29 09:34 am UTC
Re: What the HELL? - [info]t_boy, 2008-05-29 09:38 am UTC
Re: What the HELL? - [info]oulangi, 2008-05-29 09:46 am UTC
Re: What the HELL? - [info]t_boy, 2008-05-29 09:42 am UTC
Re: What the HELL? - [info]oulangi, 2008-05-29 09:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]t_boy, 2008-05-29 09:50 am UTC
Re: What the HELL? - [info]beachlass, 2008-05-29 01:14 pm UTC
Re: What the HELL? - [info]herongale, 2008-05-29 02:17 pm UTC
Re: What the HELL? - [info]magistera, 2008-05-29 07:42 pm UTC
... - [info]chibikaijuu, 2008-05-29 08:08 pm UTC
... - [info]panthea, 2008-05-31 10:03 pm UTC
... - [info]chibikaijuu, 2008-06-01 12:57 am UTC
... - [info]panthea, 2008-06-01 05:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2008-05-29 11:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]squeakytoy, 2008-05-29 11:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2008-05-29 01:26 pm UTC
Okay, make the argument a separate post - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 06:26 pm UTC

[info]loqia
2008-05-29 04:24 am UTC (link)
Unrelated, but your My Little Sleipnir icon makes me happy on the inside.

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(no subject) - [info]t_boy, 2008-05-29 04:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 04:29 am UTC

[info]xero_sky
2008-05-29 04:27 am UTC (link)
Yeah, asshattery is certainly the best response to asshattery, and in no way does it erode the high ground under your feet.

Also, you should realize that by participating in the forums -- any part of them -- you're giving your implicit approval of all the sexist, racist, homophobic, ablist (etc, etc, etc) shit that the SA team and their goons do.

Why does no one tell me these things ahead of time???

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(no subject) - [info]t_boy, 2008-05-29 04:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sharps, 2008-05-31 10:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]benighted, 2008-06-03 07:43 pm UTC

[info]frequentmouse
2008-05-29 04:30 am UTC (link)
Given that her real name is at Angry Black Woman, Fatshionista, Jezebel, and Alas, a Blog not putting it here is sort of a kind and compassionate yet empty gesture.

And what is the deal with the threats to life, limb, and profession of late?



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(no subject) - [info]risha, 2008-05-29 04:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 04:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 04:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]khym_chanur, 2008-05-29 07:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]karmakaze, 2008-05-29 01:11 pm UTC

[info]luthe
2008-05-29 04:32 am UTC (link)
Dear fandom_wank,

I really don't need to hear your thoughts on fat.

Preemptively yours,

Luthe

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(no subject) - [info]ealusaid, 2008-05-29 08:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]esclaramonde, 2008-05-29 12:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kayla, 2008-05-29 01:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]esclaramonde, 2008-05-29 01:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]fevered_ego, 2008-05-29 01:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]honorh, 2008-05-29 07:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sionja, 2008-05-29 08:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]fevered_ego, 2008-05-30 02:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sionja, 2008-05-30 02:10 am UTC

[info]mcity
2008-05-29 04:39 am UTC (link)
Attendees on Wincon

I think you mean WisCon.

Though the prospect of a Supernatural con fills me with glee. Oy vey, think of the wank.

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(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 04:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]esorlehcar, 2008-05-29 05:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ragnarok, 2008-05-29 11:10 am UTC

[info]risha
2008-05-29 04:46 am UTC (link)
Err, a clarification.

The post, according to everything I've read tonight, was made by her originally in the SA forums, and it was heavily implied in that post that her primary reason to attend WisCon was to get material for it.

What she's denying is the repost to SASS, which is a separate site.

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(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2008-05-29 04:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 05:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2008-05-29 05:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 05:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2008-05-29 06:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladyvorkosigan, 2008-05-29 11:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sgaana, 2008-05-29 02:37 pm UTC
... - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 06:23 pm UTC
... - [info]sgaana, 2008-05-29 07:11 pm UTC
... - [info]lady_ganesh, 2008-05-29 08:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 05:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]risha, 2008-05-29 02:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 06:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]vito_excalibur, 2008-05-29 06:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]risha, 2008-05-29 06:57 pm UTC

[info]hallidae
2008-05-29 04:53 am UTC (link)
Anyone else getting a "not found" on the wiscon comm post?

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(no subject) - [info]zing_och, 2008-05-29 04:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2008-05-29 05:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 05:04 am UTC

[info]zing_och
2008-05-29 05:01 am UTC (link)
Any reason for namedropping [info]coffeeandink? Because I don't see one.

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(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 05:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]airawyn, 2008-05-29 06:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]witty, 2008-05-29 04:48 pm UTC
Grudge - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 06:30 pm UTC
Re: Grudge - [info]witty, 2008-05-29 07:15 pm UTC
Re: Grudge - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 07:49 pm UTC
... - [info]witty, 2008-05-29 07:55 pm UTC
Re: Grudge - [info]smashingstars, 2008-05-29 08:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]zing_och, 2008-05-29 04:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 06:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]zing_och, 2008-05-29 07:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 07:55 pm UTC
... - [info]zing_och, 2008-05-29 08:06 pm UTC
... - [info]lady_ganesh, 2008-05-29 08:49 pm UTC

[info]risha
2008-05-29 05:02 am UTC (link)
Hmm. Sorry, pyratejenni, but while I totally agree with your "calling her employers and threatening violence are really insane and f-ed up thing to do" stance, I feel like I should add some additional context about the rage she has invoked. Along with the insults to fat attendees, her post contains slurs against a trans man, disabled people, and POCs. Oh, and calls the nine year old son of one of the attendees a pussy, which she was "nice" enough to apologize for.

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(no subject) - [info]risha, 2008-05-29 05:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]littlemousling, 2008-05-29 05:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]risha, 2008-05-29 05:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2008-05-29 11:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 05:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]risha, 2008-05-29 05:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 05:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iwanttobeasleep, 2008-05-29 05:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-29 05:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ealusaid, 2008-05-29 06:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]starkeymonster, 2008-05-29 07:54 am UTC
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