Current mood:	Snarl
Entry tags:	fandom is fucking stupid, it's okay if i don't like you, jesus wept

At least SA goons are honest trolls, or, Fandom double-standards FTL
Over the years, the unspoken rule of fandom "What happens in fandom, stays in fandom." You don't contact a fan's place of employment, university, etc. unless it's serious shit -- "serious shit" meaning illegal or life-threatening, not fannish wars or bruised egos.

Apparently, not anymore.

hypersurfaces posted a con report about WisCon that focused on the obesity of the con attendees on the Something Awful board . The post is seriously unfunny and full of fail. She later had the post deleted, but it was later reposted at a related site, Something Awful Sychophant Squad.

Attendees on Wiscon discover the post, and all hell breaks loose. Massive amounts of rage, including posts (locked and the source for this didn't get caps) of several people threatening hypersurfaces about how they would hurt/STAB her if they saw her on the street. hypersurfaces is forever and ever banned from WisCon. But not content with that, people -- including badgerbag -- find her real name, her school, and write to her dean saying she was violating the schools sexual harrassment policy. I'm not posting the link because it has her real name in it, and I like my permanent account here too much to risk the ToS.

hypersurfaces real name and real info are posted all over by fen who have previously rallied against that sort of thing - because in this case, she clearly deserves it. The casual threats of violence are astounding, and now apparently people are writing her and saying they're going to hurt/kill her - using the real name/addresses so thoughtfully provided by the angry wisconners. Kudos to the mod there for at least stepping up and telling people to knock the shit out.

But nada about this behavior from fen normally so worried about community standards, like coffeeandink.

So it's okay now to post people's real names and similar information, as long as they do something that really, really pisses you off. Because they deserve it.

ETA: Clarified where hypersurfaces's post originally went up.

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	zing_och 2008-05-29 05:01 am UTC (link)
	Any reason for namedropping coffeeandink? Because I don't see one. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	pyratejenni 2008-05-29 05:12 am UTC (link)
	Because she posted about wanting to draw community standards, and says nothing to condemn the breaking of what had been a community standard. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	airawyn 2008-05-29 06:04 am UTC (link)
	She's the Internet Police? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	witty 2008-05-29 04:48 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, I'm seeing some grudgey in bringing her up by name, here. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Grudge pyratejenni 2008-05-29 06:30 pm UTC (link)
	I don't think that word means what you think it means. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Grudge witty 2008-05-29 07:15 pm UTC (link)
	Stupid sniping? Personal vendetta? Annoying irrelevance? You making yourself look wanky? Take your pick. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Grudge pyratejenni 2008-05-29 07:49 pm UTC (link)
	D-. Look it up in your Funk & Wagnalls. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Grudge witty 2008-05-29 07:55 pm UTC (link)
	Grudge. n. Go directly to wankitywank. Do not pass Go, do not collect $200. What am I not seeing here? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: Grudge smashingstars 2008-05-29 08:16 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, this entire post is nothing more than thoughts on yaoi with a hint of grudgewank mixed in. The links provided are sad -- a quick Google search will show plenty of more informative links with a lot less bias. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	zing_och 2008-05-29 04:51 pm UTC (link)
	Wow, that is really, really weak. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	pyratejenni 2008-05-29 06:28 pm UTC (link)
	Not as weak as the "She deserves it!" defense. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	zing_och 2008-05-29 07:45 pm UTC (link)
	This is the standard you hold yourself to? BTW, the post now says [info]hypersurfaces posted a con report about WisCon that focused on the obesity of the con attendees on SomethingAwful picked it up and reposted it in their forum. Which isn't actually that clarifying. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	pyratejenni 2008-05-29 07:55 pm UTC (link)
	So I need a thesis to say I'm disappointed in someone's double-standard and therefore using it as an example? Which isn't actually that clarifying. Thanks. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	zing_och 2008-05-29 08:06 pm UTC (link)
	No, you don't need it. It just seems fishy to use someone not posting on an issue as an example. Since she has posted on the issue by now, it's a moot point anyway, I guess. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	lady_ganesh 2008-05-29 08:49 pm UTC (link)
	You don't need a thesis. But we're free to call it grudgewank if that's what it looks like. I didn't realize coffeeandink had to be online 24/7 posting about the fandom issues you cared about. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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