Current mood:	Snarl
Entry tags:	fandom is fucking stupid, it's okay if i don't like you, jesus wept

At least SA goons are honest trolls, or, Fandom double-standards FTL
Over the years, the unspoken rule of fandom "What happens in fandom, stays in fandom." You don't contact a fan's place of employment, university, etc. unless it's serious shit -- "serious shit" meaning illegal or life-threatening, not fannish wars or bruised egos.

Apparently, not anymore.

hypersurfaces posted a con report about WisCon that focused on the obesity of the con attendees on the Something Awful board . The post is seriously unfunny and full of fail. She later had the post deleted, but it was later reposted at a related site, Something Awful Sychophant Squad.

Attendees on Wiscon discover the post, and all hell breaks loose. Massive amounts of rage, including posts (locked and the source for this didn't get caps) of several people threatening hypersurfaces about how they would hurt/STAB her if they saw her on the street. hypersurfaces is forever and ever banned from WisCon. But not content with that, people -- including badgerbag -- find her real name, her school, and write to her dean saying she was violating the schools sexual harrassment policy. I'm not posting the link because it has her real name in it, and I like my permanent account here too much to risk the ToS.

hypersurfaces real name and real info are posted all over by fen who have previously rallied against that sort of thing - because in this case, she clearly deserves it. The casual threats of violence are astounding, and now apparently people are writing her and saying they're going to hurt/kill her - using the real name/addresses so thoughtfully provided by the angry wisconners. Kudos to the mod there for at least stepping up and telling people to knock the shit out.

But nada about this behavior from fen normally so worried about community standards, like coffeeandink.

So it's okay now to post people's real names and similar information, as long as they do something that really, really pisses you off. Because they deserve it.

ETA: Clarified where hypersurfaces's post originally went up.

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	rani 2008-05-29 08:27 am UTC (link)
	...I honestly didn't think there was a way to spin this to make the SA goons into tragic heroes, but you have managed it. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	ladyvorkosigan 2008-05-29 11:20 am UTC (link)
	They're just trying to mock women and PoC in peace, you know? tear (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	rani 2008-05-29 04:45 pm UTC (link)
	Yep, you can be as racist, homophobic, misogynistic, transphobic, and generally douchey as you want to be, as long as you are honest about it. Honesty is very important. nods They're like George Washington, in a way. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	dez_chan 2008-05-29 05:22 pm UTC (link)
	Pretty soon they're gonna start the Open Source Asshole Project where they can be assholes to people without the threat of backlash from us haters. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	esclaramonde 2008-05-29 01:28 pm UTC (link)
	I'm not seeing it. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	vito_excalibur 2008-05-29 04:27 pm UTC (link)
	No, she hasn't. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	rani 2008-05-29 04:41 pm UTC (link)
	She came so close though, and only used one outright lie! That's some Bush administration-level massaging of facts, right there. I've gotta give her points for effort. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	pyratejenni 2008-05-29 05:59 pm UTC (link)
	Because pointing out the double-standard of "This is NEVER OK! (unless it's someone who really pisses me off)" is making heroes of SA goons. Uh-huh. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

rani
2008-05-29 06:57 pm UTC (link)

Is that what you were trying to do? Because it took you about five paragraphs of misinformation and wanky bias to get there. You certainly failed to mention that this hateful fucker is a member of SA, and posted the con report there herself. I'm sorry if my initial impression was off, but it sure as hell seems like you either really love SA, or really hate Wiscon. Or you're all riled up at fandom because of the election nonsense.

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	pyratejenni 2008-05-29 07:48 pm UTC (link)
	I didn't get the info hyperspaces was a member of SA until the wee hours of the morning, and was too sleep-drunk to do the edit properly. The post has been corrected. I can't stand SA, and I've never been to WisCon. As I've said before, I don't believe in It's Okay If You're/If You're Not A (Fill-in-the-blank). (Reply to this)(Parent)

	lady_ganesh 2008-05-30 02:09 am UTC (link)
	We certainly know her opinion of coffeeandink. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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