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ladyvorkosigan
2008-05-29 11:40 am UTC (link)

Okay, since this is unfunnybusiness, I'm going to go all out. I'll try and clean up my splooge when I'm done myself. This is not someone getting mad about a Supernatural shipping war and seeking out someone else's real life info. This is someone taking pictures of real life people, in real life, and posting them in ways that are easily identifiable to anyone who sees the pictures and knows them. Furthermore, it's someone who attends the same university that many of the con attendees attend and work at and who they can be expected to see on a regular basis. It's also someone who used her real name at the con and who was seen taking pictures there. This is not an Internet dispute dragged into real life; it's a real life situation that she used the Internet to perpetuate. These are totally different things.

Moreover, honestly? I don't know if you've ever had your picture put on-line and your appearance derided by people who you're fairly sure included at least some of your classmates and co-workers? I have. It doesn't feel like an abstract Internet "oh, just another flame war" issue; it feels blatantly unsafe. And yeah, some people have thicker skins then others. But for many people, it acts as a lurking, menacing, unstated threat. And this goes a hundred times over for people like the transpeople whose pictures she's posted that are in very real fear of violence against them personally on a regular basis. So it's nice that you think this is just another Internet flamewar with the honest goons trolling like they do and why would those silly fat feminist bitches want to ruin their fun? But I think you should go fuck yourself.

And yes, of course death threats are never okay. Nor did anyone actually say they were. If she has really received them, we have no idea who did it or what the content was, and leveling that charge against the people who posted that they were outraged at her behavior or even the people who posted her real name is unfounded at this point in time.

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oulangi
2008-05-29 12:17 pm UTC (link)

This is someone taking pictures of real life people, in real life, and posting them in ways that are easily identifiable to anyone who sees the pictures and knows them.
So IF someone already knows the people IN the pictures, they'll recognize their picture? What? Seriously, the post is asshole-y BUT the faces are covered. Moreover, I doubt there's a hell of a lot of cross over between SASS and say, WisConners targetted by the post who also attend UW. So this "She brought it to REAL LIFE FIRST" argument doesn't fly.

Yes. I've HAD my picture posted online. Yes it sucks. Somehow I managed to avoid threatening to kill the people responsible.

Given that I'VE seen threats - including from someone here who said they wanted to punch her, but for reasons unexplained, we should all just automatically understand she doesn't really really mean it - and I've only been following this from my flist/here - and that some of those threats were made on the wiscon google group, I'd say "we" have a pretty good idea who's made them. Frantic editing, locking, and deleting of some of the nastier business aside, of course.

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	eleutheria 2008-05-29 12:21 pm UTC (link)
	Given that I'VE seen threats - including from someone here who said they wanted to punch her, but for reasons unexplained, we should all just automatically understand she doesn't really really mean it - So every time someone says "die in a fire", you think that means that they're threatening to force you to burn to death? Come on. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	esclaramonde 2008-05-29 12:28 pm UTC (link)
	If someone said my real name and address, and then said DIAF? Yeah, I'd be pretty freaked out. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)