Current mood:	Snarl
Entry tags:	fandom is fucking stupid, it's okay if i don't like you, jesus wept

At least SA goons are honest trolls, or, Fandom double-standards FTL
Over the years, the unspoken rule of fandom "What happens in fandom, stays in fandom." You don't contact a fan's place of employment, university, etc. unless it's serious shit -- "serious shit" meaning illegal or life-threatening, not fannish wars or bruised egos.

Apparently, not anymore.

hypersurfaces posted a con report about WisCon that focused on the obesity of the con attendees on the Something Awful board . The post is seriously unfunny and full of fail. She later had the post deleted, but it was later reposted at a related site, Something Awful Sychophant Squad.

Attendees on Wiscon discover the post, and all hell breaks loose. Massive amounts of rage, including posts (locked and the source for this didn't get caps) of several people threatening hypersurfaces about how they would hurt/STAB her if they saw her on the street. hypersurfaces is forever and ever banned from WisCon. But not content with that, people -- including badgerbag -- find her real name, her school, and write to her dean saying she was violating the schools sexual harrassment policy. I'm not posting the link because it has her real name in it, and I like my permanent account here too much to risk the ToS.

hypersurfaces real name and real info are posted all over by fen who have previously rallied against that sort of thing - because in this case, she clearly deserves it. The casual threats of violence are astounding, and now apparently people are writing her and saying they're going to hurt/kill her - using the real name/addresses so thoughtfully provided by the angry wisconners. Kudos to the mod there for at least stepping up and telling people to knock the shit out.

But nada about this behavior from fen normally so worried about community standards, like coffeeandink.

So it's okay now to post people's real names and similar information, as long as they do something that really, really pisses you off. Because they deserve it.

ETA: Clarified where hypersurfaces's post originally went up.

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witty
2008-05-29 05:24 pm UTC (link)

Those are from Flickr pools -- actually, some of them are from last year -- which were public before but have since been locked. The trolls grabbed several of the pictures and either just reposted them or manipped and reposted them.

(Which, I don't know why that wouldn't get them TOSed, but I don't know how they manage things in their stinky corner of the internet.)

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	prettyveela 2008-05-29 05:31 pm UTC (link)
	Thank you. So the SA people went and found those after she posted her initial post is what it seems. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	hallidae 2008-05-29 05:41 pm UTC (link)
	She had pictures of her own, those just weren't them. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	prettyveela 2008-05-29 06:13 pm UTC (link)
	Thanks, that thread over on SASS is just...wow. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	witty 2008-05-29 06:09 pm UTC (link)
	Right. She had some photos (with faces but not badges whited out); she posted them to SA; she deleted from SA and somebody posted to SASS (including her photos); the charming assholes from SASS are the ones who started digging through Flickr for un-whited-out photos. Aaaand now they're here commenting on UFB. THAT's going to go well. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	prettyveela 2008-05-29 06:12 pm UTC (link)
	Aaaand now they're here commenting on UFB. THAT's going to go well. I JUST saw that, ugh. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sgaana 2008-05-30 01:53 am UTC (link)
	On the other hand, it's been like 9 hours, and everyone here has been wise enough not to even respond to it! So hey; not bad so far. (And it hasn't led to an avalanche of other SASSers coming here to wade in. THANK GOD.) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	esclaramonde 2008-05-29 09:30 pm UTC (link)
	The badges that I'm seeing in the post I've been linked to are all way too small to be read, aside from one arguable one. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

witty
2008-05-29 09:46 pm UTC (link)

I don't suppose the names on the badges matter all that much, except the big one, which is the Wiscon name itself. I have no problem with rolling responsibility for the initial SA post in with responsibility for subsequent assholery by other parties. Once the fools knew to search Flickr for Wiscon, they found their motherlode; the person who aimed and loaded that shotgun deserves a lot of the blame for what each repellent little pellet ended up doing.

Otherwise, they'd have mocked last year's Wiscon pictures last year. (Instead of discovering them yesterday.)

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	onyxnoir 2008-05-30 03:43 am UTC (link)
	Personally, I'm enjoying the invisible dogpile of shunning that comment is getting. :) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	witty 2008-05-30 04:39 am UTC (link)
	And now I am in desperate need of a cat macro that says INVISIBLE DOGPILE. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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