Current mood:	Snarl
Entry tags:	fandom is fucking stupid, it's okay if i don't like you, jesus wept

At least SA goons are honest trolls, or, Fandom double-standards FTL
Over the years, the unspoken rule of fandom "What happens in fandom, stays in fandom." You don't contact a fan's place of employment, university, etc. unless it's serious shit -- "serious shit" meaning illegal or life-threatening, not fannish wars or bruised egos.

Apparently, not anymore.

hypersurfaces posted a con report about WisCon that focused on the obesity of the con attendees on the Something Awful board . The post is seriously unfunny and full of fail. She later had the post deleted, but it was later reposted at a related site, Something Awful Sychophant Squad.

Attendees on Wiscon discover the post, and all hell breaks loose. Massive amounts of rage, including posts (locked and the source for this didn't get caps) of several people threatening hypersurfaces about how they would hurt/STAB her if they saw her on the street. hypersurfaces is forever and ever banned from WisCon. But not content with that, people -- including badgerbag -- find her real name, her school, and write to her dean saying she was violating the schools sexual harrassment policy. I'm not posting the link because it has her real name in it, and I like my permanent account here too much to risk the ToS.

hypersurfaces real name and real info are posted all over by fen who have previously rallied against that sort of thing - because in this case, she clearly deserves it. The casual threats of violence are astounding, and now apparently people are writing her and saying they're going to hurt/kill her - using the real name/addresses so thoughtfully provided by the angry wisconners. Kudos to the mod there for at least stepping up and telling people to knock the shit out.

But nada about this behavior from fen normally so worried about community standards, like coffeeandink.

So it's okay now to post people's real names and similar information, as long as they do something that really, really pisses you off. Because they deserve it.

ETA: Clarified where hypersurfaces's post originally went up.

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Re: Why yes, context *does* matter.

esclaramonde
2008-05-29 09:28 pm UTC (link)

- The people reporting this woman to her employer are her coworkers - fellow grad students - at U of W Madison, the university strongly associated with Wiscon. That's a helluva lot different than calling someone's employer up out of the blue.

Can you tell me which people are the coworkers? I'm very confused. Is badgerbag (man, I have mangled half the names I've posted here today) thing a member of her uni?

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	*Re: Why yes, context does* matter. airawyn** 2008-05-29 09:36 pm UTC (link)
	The only one I know for certain is on my flist and posted under f-lock, so I can't give her name. I've heard that there are others. If there are non-UW people reporting this woman to her school, will someone please provide links? I'm sick of all the mud-slinging and rumors. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	*Re: Why yes, context does* matter. esclaramonde** 2008-05-29 10:15 pm UTC (link)
	I'm just assuming everyone is not a UW student until proven otherwise, so how about badgerbag? She's the one with the email to the dean. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	*Re: Why yes, context does* matter. frequentmouse** 2008-05-29 10:17 pm UTC (link)
	The Badgers are the University of Wisconsin sports teams names, so I expect she's from UWisc, indeed. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	*Re: Why yes, context does* matter. esclaramonde** 2008-05-30 12:57 pm UTC (link)
	Someone else just told me that she isn't, though. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	*Re: Why yes, context does* matter. lady_ganesh** 2008-05-30 04:30 pm UTC (link)
	Her LJ lists her address as CA and does not name UofW as her school. She could have an affiliation with the university that's not public. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	*Re: Why yes, context does* matter. frequentmouse** 2008-05-30 04:47 pm UTC (link)
	I was going to try to explain the ways in which people in the US can have lingering quasi-fannish, quasi religious connections to Universities they do not currently attend, but decided that I'd already given up on a PhD in applied anthropology because I'm no good at pedagogical writing. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	*Re: Why yes, context does* matter. lady_ganesh** 2008-05-30 11:40 pm UTC (link)
	Hah, yeah, I'm not saying she doesn't have some kind of connection, just that alumni/student aren't listed on her LJ. I feel like there's so much confusion going on here we should be as clear as possible. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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