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well, at least she's a good-looking spy ([info]blue_penguin) wrote in [info]unfunnybusiness,
@ 2009-10-02 00:16:00


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Creepy people attend anime conventions, film at 11.
Or, Bitches and Whores!

So New York Anime Festival was nearly a week ago now, but the wank lives on, as it is wont to do.

These are mini-wanks, really — fun-sized, like those little candy bars you get in bags to hand out to trick-or-treaters, except instead of nougat they're full of stupid. Which is not nearly as tasty, but at least it won't rot your teeth, just your brain. Wait, maybe that's worse.

Anyway, the first one comes from the official NYAF forums, where one young man by the name of wawawa22 posts a topic entitled "i hope she sees this." Apparently he has seen a beautiful Yuffie cosplayer, and he has never been this crazy about a girl before! He "cant remove her off [his] head" [sic], it seems. So of course the logical course of action here is to post a picture of her (now removed) and beg her to contact him.


Several people offer moral support, while others say "Dude, not cool." Our intrepid OP is sorry they're creeped out, but it's not healthy to bottle things up, guys! Things continue in this fashion for a while; eventually concerns are raised about whether it's okay to post the girl's picture. wawawa22 feels remorse and takes the picture down, though leaving the text intact.

Then along comes Kita. Kita thinks people are overreacting, because anime fans have no social skills and thus think that people are interested in them when they're not (note that she's talking about the people who are creeped out here, not the ones doing the creeping). Also, cosplayers don't like having their picture taken. She knows this because of her learnings. Cimi tries to debate this point, only for Kita to reveal that she's an internet psychologist.

Also on the creepy front, we have Hiroyuki, who tells us that women who show too much skin are asking for the attention and if they are not interested in you, personally, then they are clearly stuck-up bitches. Kita disputes this, revealing in the process that Internet U's psych degree includes a class on ladder theory.

Rurouni Idoru comes in and makes a rather awesome, if tl;dr, comment explaining exactly why this is creepy. Many people agree, including Kita, surprisingly enough. There is a musical interlude. Amidst all this, asianwolverine decides to share with everyone an anecdote about how all women are psychos if you turn them down. Also about peeing.

Finally wawawa22 returns and reveals that he was drunk at the time and has already forgotten the unfortunate Yuffie cosplayer; he also claims to have learned a lot from the replies. Hooray, happy ending! Or something.


And as a slightly smaller side-dish with a similar but distinctly-flavored brand of fail, over on the cosplay.com forums someone posts a topic about a girl who was letting people grab her boobs for $5. Opinions are divided over whether this is funny, disgusting sluttery, illegal prostitution, or OK as long as she's hot. There is also some ranting on the related (?) topic of the dangers of paddles.


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[info]doomsday
2009-10-02 07:10 am UTC (link)
I kind of want to print out what Rurouni Idoru said and give it to a friend of mine who's turned into an obnoxious Nice Guy for really stupid reasons.

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[info]sablemouse
2009-10-02 12:41 pm UTC (link)
I recently started cosplaying and I have to say that this is one of the things that really creeps me out. Taking my picture is fine and all, but please do not be posting my picture up begging asking for me to contact you. Because I won't.

Also, we cosplay coz we like it. Showing skin is just one of the side effects, not the main attraction. Why don't anime and comic fans understand that?

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[info]chikane
2009-10-02 12:51 pm UTC (link)
Also, we cosplay coz we like it. Showing skin is just one of the side effects, not the main attraction. Why don't anime and comic fans understand that?

Because that'd mean they had to aknowledge we weren't there only to make their time better. After all, the assumption is that we're just glorified boothbabes. Our purpose is just to entertain the menfolk. Since they're important. Or something.

I hate that attitude, I really do.

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[info]sablemouse
2009-10-02 12:57 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, and us wimmins aren't interested at all in anime and manga! We're here just for you! *gags*

I'm really glad that I haven't encountered that attitude in real life.

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tetradecimal
2009-10-02 02:25 pm UTC (link)
I don't get this when I cosplay. However, apparently it's not limited to cosplayers. Con story!

I was hanging out in the Artist Alley at Otakon one year, and this one artist is selling T-shirts next to me. This dude holding a camera comes up out of nowhere and says, "Can I take a picture of you?"

The artist is not wearing a costume. She is dressed in normal street clothes and sitting behind her shirts. She looks confused. "Me?"

"Yeah," he says, "You're really beautiful and I want to take a picture of you."

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[info]fiiierce
2009-10-02 02:32 pm UTC (link)
I got that at Otakon this year.

I'd like to think it's the same guy because it creeps me out to think that there are two people out there that are that inappropriate, but it probably is actually a different guy.

Oh, conventions.

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tetradecimal
2009-10-02 02:45 pm UTC (link)
Cons are full of inappropriateness, really. And sometimes it's not even clear where it's coming from. But sometimes it really, really is.

... D:

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(no subject) - [info]fiiierce, 2009-10-02 02:52 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]fiiierce, 2009-10-02 06:01 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]irradiated, 2009-10-03 05:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2009-10-02 04:10 pm UTC
repost for typo - [info]blue_penguin, 2009-10-02 05:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]realbooted, 2009-10-02 05:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]fiiierce, 2009-10-02 05:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyrrah, 2009-10-02 07:04 pm UTC
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[info]sparkysrevenge
2009-10-03 07:45 am UTC (link)
I had a couple people want to do that at Dcon, which, yknow, weird, but apparently (and I did not know this till this year) I have a strong resemblance to Felicia Day crossed with Rose McGowan? I even had someone accidentally think I was Penny from Dr Horrible when out of costume.

Whatever, I was wearing a witty tshirt and still had my Jessica Rabbit makeup on. It happened considerably less when I had my Snape (and later Mal Reynolds), so I just chalk it up to "hot, unaccompanied female nerd."

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[info]jkefka
2009-10-02 05:44 pm UTC (link)
Oh ffs. Okay, in principle, an introvert nerd getting up the courage to actually put out a benign missed connection post or something? That would be kind of cute. Going all obsessional in a very public way? Not so much OK. The rest of the fail...hell, people will have these same old arguments at any excuse, they're just along for the ride.

Also, in brief, about the goddamn nice-guy thing that makes me ashamed to be a male geek every time I see it. Thought about doing something like this once, a long time ago. Then I looked around and saw all the drama, creepiness and general unhappiness in my circle of friends that had resulted from such an approach. Realized that going up and saying "I'm attracted to you" in a discreet but definite way was a vastly simpler approach that, as a bonus, often works better because it comes off as politely confident rather than passive and hesitant. You get turned down, you get turned down, but it's dealt with right there and then and you can get on with your life and even have the person as a friend with all the awkward romantic tension resolved. Why is this lesson so difficult for people to learn?

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tetradecimal
2009-10-02 06:10 pm UTC (link)
But it's romantic to be manipulative and clingy. You'll never stop our love!

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[info]jkefka
2009-10-02 06:46 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I was really never able to wrap my head around that idea. It's like there's this whole romantic aura around sitting around pining for someone while being friends (oddly, in the manner of that silly "you belong with me" song but with more creepy male geek). I find it much more romantic to, you know, actually be in a relationship, but maybe I'm just weird.

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ariadne484
2009-10-02 07:58 pm UTC (link)
Having some common sense is sometimes percieved as weirdness, but that's just because it's so uncommon.

(Thank you for having some sense.)

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[info]notjo
2009-10-02 06:04 pm UTC (link)
Are you quoting something with the cut-tag? Could you change it to something else? I find ablist slurs very disturbing.

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[info]blue_penguin
2009-10-02 06:19 pm UTC (link)
It is a direct quote of someone in that mess of fail, yes, but I'll change it.

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[info]notjo
2009-10-02 06:35 pm UTC (link)
Can I eat them? I'm hungry, and stupid tastes good in the morning.

Thank you.

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[info]blue_penguin
2009-10-02 06:43 pm UTC (link)
Go ahead — maybe the average intelligence of the world will even rise by a tiny fraction!

No problem! I should've thought that one through better.

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[info]churri
2009-10-02 11:46 pm UTC (link)
Oh joy, like I needed more reasons not to return to NYAF.

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[info]blue_penguin
2009-10-02 11:54 pm UTC (link)
To be fair, I think this is pretty endemic to anime conventions as a whole. Though NYAF is admittedly lame and I doubt I'll go back. I'm only still stalking the forums because I'm still hoping some of the pictures taken of me/my costume will show up there. Hurray, vanity.

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[info]kylenne
2009-10-03 12:13 am UTC (link)
I've been to a lot of shitty cons in my time (Shoujocon '01 being one of the standouts for sheer fail). NYAF is in like a whole other class of shitty con.

Oh, I totally know the feeling. The things I endure to attention whore in costume, LOL.

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[info]blue_penguin
2009-10-03 12:16 am UTC (link)
Ah, okay. The only other con I've ever been to is Otakon, so I don't have a lot of basis for comparison. Sorry!

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[info]churri
2009-10-03 03:28 am UTC (link)
Oh, skeeviness is all over cons, yeah, but NYAF was a particularly bad experience for me -- overcrowded, overpriced, underpaneled, and someone stole the stuff I bought in the dealer's room. So yeah. Not going back unless I decide to compete in the Masq, for some reason.

That's why I'm stalking the forums, too -- my girlfriend and I did get a lot of pictures taken, and I want to see them all.

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[info]blue_penguin
2009-10-03 03:51 am UTC (link)
Agreed on all counts (though I didn't get stolen from — yikes). It was really not worth the price of admission at all.

At least I'm not alone, then! I got a lot of pictures taken, but for some strange reason the only ones that have turned up are the ones from the photoshoot I was in. Which is nice and all, but I only need so many copies of the same three or four shots.

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[info]kylenne
2009-10-03 12:11 am UTC (link)
Seriously. This, in a nutshell, is why I went the first year and never returned.

For whatever reason, the crowd there seems to be exceptionally obnoxious, even for anime cons. Which is a damn shame, as it's the one con besides AnimeNext that I can roll out of bed and just hop a subway (or in the case of AN) the PATH for.

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[info]cazrolime
2009-10-04 05:13 pm UTC (link)
Hahaha, just because a girl won't give you her contact info doesn't mean she's a %+@#*. It just means she's not interested. If she were a %+@#*, she'd give it to you, lead you on and friend-zone you.

I must be a simply enormous %+@#*, then, because I gave two separate guys my Facebook yesterday and I'm not going to sleep with either of them. Oh, the humanity.

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[info]sparkthatbled
2009-10-04 06:48 pm UTC (link)
I did something like this for my last anime con, but I don't think I was as bad as he was...

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