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Kai ([info]kefanii) wrote in [info]unfunnybusiness,
@ 2010-02-12 21:14:00


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professor opens fire on fellow faculty, kills three
This is my university, so may as well.

6 Shot, 3 Killed at Alabama Campus Faculty Meeting



Three faculty members at the University of Alabama in Huntsville were shot to death, and three other people were seriously wounded, at a biology faculty meeting on Friday afternoon, university officials said.

A woman is taken into custody by Huntsville police on Friday in connection with the shootings.
The New York Times

Site of the shootings.

The Huntsville Times, citing a university official, reported that a biology professor was being held in the shooting. WAFF, the NBC affiliate in Huntsville, quoted university officials as saying the professor began shooting after learning at the faculty meeting that she was being denied tenure.

The newspaper identified the professor as Amy Bishop, a Harvard-educated neuroscientist. According to a 2006 profile in the newspaper, Dr. Bishop invented a portable cell growth incubator with her husband, Jim Anderson. Police officials said that Mr. Anderson was being detained, but they did not call him a suspect.

Photographs of a suspect being led from the scene by the police appeared to match images of Dr. Bishop on academic and technology Web sites.

Dr. Bishop had told acquaintances recently that she was worried about getting tenure, said a business associate who met her at a business technology open house at the end of January and asked not to be named because of the close-knit nature of the science community in Huntsville.

“She began to talk about her problems getting tenure in a very forceful and animated way, saying it was unfair,” the associate said, referring to a conversation in which she blamed specific colleagues for her problems.

“She seemed to be one of these persons who was just very open with her feelings,” he said. “A very smart, intense person who had a variety of opinions on issues.”

The shooting occurred in the Shelby Center at the university around 4 p.m., officials said. Few students were in the building, and none were involved in the shooting, said Ray Garner, a university spokesman. Three faculty members were killed, and three other people — two faculty members and one staff member — were taken to Huntsville Hospital, with injuries ranging from serious to critical.

Officials said the suspect was detained outside of the building “without incident.”

Justin Wright, a senior, was working in the building’s math lab on the second floor when the police burst in with guns drawn. Mr. Wright told The Huntsville Times that his first thoughts were, “I need to get down, I need to get down.” He added: “I’ve never seen a gun or heavy artillery like that. I was shocked.”

The shooting came just a week after a middle school student near Huntsville shot and killed a classmate.

“This is a very safe campus,” Mr. Garner said. “It’s not unlike what we experienced a week ago. This town is not accustomed to shootings and having multiple dead.”

The gray lawns of the campus were illuminated by the flashing lights of police cars and ambulances with blue and yellow stripes as the police and SWAT teams descended on campus. The university police were the first to respond, but the Huntsville Police Department is now handling the investigation, officials said. The Madison County Sheriff’s Department is assisting.

The university was put on lockdown “almost instantaneously,” said Trent Willis, chief of staff to Mayor Tommy Battle. But some students complained on Twitter and to reporters that they did not receive the university’s alert until hours after the shooting.

“The U-Alert was triggered late because the people involved in activating that system were involved in responding to the shooting,” said Charles Gailes, chief of the university police, at a news conference.

“We’re going to stop, we’re going to sit down, we’re going to review what happened,” Mr. Gailes said. “All of these actions are going to be learning points, and we’re going to be better for this.”

Erin Johnson, a sophomore, told The Huntsville Times that a biology faculty meeting was under way when she heard screams coming from the room.

According to the 2006 profile, Dr. Bishop and her husband tired of using old-fashioned petri dishes for cell incubation and designed a sealed, self-contained mobile cell incubation system. The system was described as reducing many of the problems with cultivating tissues in the fragile environment of the petri dish. The system was later marketed by Prodigy Biosystems, which raised $1.2 million in capital financing after winning third place in an Alabama technology competition.

Dr. Bishop’s faculty Web page listed several of her academic publications, many of which had to do with her interest in the role of nitric oxide in the central nervous system. Dr. Bishop said on her page that she was developing a neural computer that used living neurons taken from adult stem cells and the cells of bony fish.

Shaila Dewan and Robbie Brown contributed reporting from Atlanta.


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[info]dreamer_marie
2010-02-13 04:46 pm UTC (link)
That's awful. It's horrible for the victims and it's made even worse by the fact that I understand the shooter's desperation.

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[info]jupiterpluvius
2010-02-14 12:35 am UTC (link)
I do not understand any form of "desperation" that leads you to shoot people dead.

Especially when it's the second occasion in your life when you've done it.

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[info]jupiterpluvius
2010-02-14 12:37 am UTC (link)
I mean, yeah, not getting tenure sucks. But what you do is file a lawsuit, not SHOOT PEOPLE DEAD.

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[info]dreamer_marie
2010-02-14 12:51 am UTC (link)
What I meant is that I know what it's like to be a hypereducated person who can't find a steady job in academia because people never think you're good enough. The idea that I could end up like that is very frightening.

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[info]ekaterinv
2010-02-14 01:41 am UTC (link)
Yeah, academia can be heinously frustrating; my mom had fantasies of going all Xena at certain faculty meetings, but I know she would never actually do it, and I'm betting you wouldn't either. This woman obviously thinks of violence as a way to solve her problems, for whatever reason, and most people just don't.

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[info]snarkhunter
2010-02-14 01:40 pm UTC (link)
My fantasies during faculty meetings tend towards things like imagining myself crawling under the table and refusing to come out.

It would make the meeting marginally more bearable.

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[info]funwithrage
2010-02-14 02:53 am UTC (link)
Yeah, that's...less "desperation" and more "psychopathic entitlement complex."

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[info]snarkhunter
2010-02-14 03:30 am UTC (link)
This. Thank you.

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[info]lundy
2010-02-13 06:53 pm UTC (link)
This is so tragic. Yesterday was an awful day w/r/t tragedies everywhere.

I hope everyone at UAH is coping okay. And I hope you're doing alright as well. (((hugs)))

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[info]bigbigtruck
2010-02-13 07:06 pm UTC (link)
Jesus Christ, first Discovery Middle, now this. WHAT THE FUCK, HOMETOWN.

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[info]scorpio20
2010-02-14 04:21 am UTC (link)
THIS. I'm over in Hartselle and my oldest leaves for UNA this fall. It's things like this that make me want to check out online schools and lock her up forever.

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[info]bigbigtruck
2010-02-14 07:49 am UTC (link)
I spent my early childhood on the south side of town near Redstone and the rest in Madison, so this week has been freaking my shit right out.

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[info]kefanii
2010-02-14 03:02 pm UTC (link)
I don't fucking know. It's just... not the Huntsville I've lived in since 5th grade.

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[info]baranduyn
2010-02-13 11:20 pm UTC (link)
As it turns out this may not be the first time she shot someone.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/02/statement_from_32.html?camp=localsearch:on:twit:hp

In 1986 she was accused of shooting and killing her brother during an argument. The reports have gone missing, she was released to her mother's custody before being charged and there is a lot of p'd off people even more p'd off now. Apparently her mother had something to do with Braintree local politics. The current chief remembers the regular police being really angry because Amy wasn't charged.

I got nothin' here except that when you think it can't get worse and her photo as she was being taken away does not suggest she's a calm, misunderstood person. I'm just sayin'

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[info]lady_ganesh
2010-02-14 05:30 am UTC (link)
She said she loaded it but had trouble unloading it and it accidentally went off in her bedroom. Still hoping to unload it, she said, she went downstairs to ask her brother to help her, accidentally shooting him. Her mother said she had witnessed the incident and generally corroborated her account.

Wow.

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[info]baranduyn
2010-02-14 05:36 am UTC (link)
She said she loaded it but had trouble unloading it and it accidentally went off in her bedroom. Still hoping to unload it, she said, she went downstairs to ask her brother to help her, accidentally shooting him. Her mother said she had witnessed the incident and generally corroborated her account.

Wow


According to additional reports (they may be on Boston.com which is the Boston Globe's site and also on NECN) she actually shot him during an argument, fled the house, pointed the gun at a passing car to get them to stop then had to be subdued at gun point by the police. Then some calls were made and she was released to her mother's custody with no charges filed.

It's a crapstorm in Braintree because the original reports are missing. The current chief says at the time there was a lot of unhappiness and discontent on the police force because they couldn't believe she wasn't charged.

I just keep thinking about her reported remarks after this shooting, something like "Nobody got shot, nobody got hurt" and wonder if she's hoping she'll get another free pass. Not likely and most definitely not in Alabama, not if her Mama was President.

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[info]lady_ganesh
2010-02-14 05:38 am UTC (link)
Holy smoke.

I wonder if she's mentally ill and it just keeps worsening. And hell, nothing happened last time.

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[info]baranduyn
2010-02-14 02:48 pm UTC (link)
Holy smoke.

I wonder if she's mentally ill and it just keeps worsening. And hell, nothing happened last time.


I don't want to play NetShrink. I'm not qualified.

There are conflicting reports coming out of Alabama. Some of her students said she was clearly able to do the work herself but teaching was a problem. She couldn't (wouldn't, didn't) explain things properly to her students. Others said she was a good if odd teacher.

I don't know if the story will ever get straightened out. One person said the meeting was about tenure, another said it wasn't.

Where I draw a hard line is taking a gun to a meeting. That's so deep in 'no' world unless the meeting is of the Gun Club and someone makes sure none of the weapons are loaded.

The gun is not the answer to your problems and most certainly not to your merits as a teacher and why you should get tenure.

Her critics now can say "Why didn't she get tenure? HELLO!?" That may be a little unfair as she never shot anyone at the school before but it really doesn't help anyone, especially the traumatized and the dead.

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[info]lady_ganesh
2010-02-14 02:51 pm UTC (link)
Oh, yeah. It's just hard not to speculate in something like this-- so much stuff is going on.

I wonder if she carried a gun anyway. Or, more cynically, if the people who advocate teachers carrying as a way to prevent teen/young twenties school shooters will reconsider their positions.

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[info]baranduyn
2010-02-14 05:37 pm UTC (link)
I wonder if she carried a gun anyway. Or, more cynically, if the people who advocate teachers carrying as a way to prevent teen/young twenties school shooters will reconsider their positions.

I'll opinionate; the last few shootings have not involved student.

Historically that's how it's gone. You have your Columbines and your inner city shootings (which do not get enough press because of the 'those people do that' attitude aka racism) and then you have a whack job who decides to terrorize and murder some nice Quaker kids before offing himself.

The idea of arming teachers presupposed that all teachers are level headed and mostly sane. My own experience suggests otherwise and this incident doesn't help. Teachers are people of all types. My own experience also suggests that when you give some (not all) people guns they become bullies using the threat of shooting to get their own way as well as those who get a gun and now really, really need to use it. Other people would never use it no matter what.

I would almost bet that those who advocate arming teachers will use this incident to point out that if everyone was packin' she might not have shot or someone else would've shot her thereby Saving Lives. Thereby returning us all those glorious years in 19th century Tombstone.

My other opinion is those who advocate more guns as a solution to anything are so profoundly stupid you couldn't jump start their brains with a Diehard, no pun intended.

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[info]issendai
2010-02-16 12:32 am UTC (link)
Plus there's evidence that when guns are available, people start taking other types of weapons less seriously. That means more violence and more death, because the taser and the nightstick don't care that you don't think they're all that dangerous; physics says they'll still fuck you up.

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[info]snarkhunter
2010-02-14 01:42 pm UTC (link)
I thought it was something like, "It didn't happen. No one is dead." Which to me indicates a serious psychotic break.

(Y HALO THAR INTERNET PSYCHOLOGIST!)

But yeah. This is clearly a deeply disturbed woman, whether in the actually-crazy sense or in the psychopathically entitled sense.

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[info]baranduyn
2010-02-14 02:42 pm UTC (link)
I thought it was something like, "It didn't happen. No one is dead." Which to me indicates a serious psychotic break.

(Y HALO THAR INTERNET PSYCHOLOGIST!)

But yeah. This is clearly a deeply disturbed woman, whether in the actually-crazy sense or in the psychopathically entitled sense.


You're right, that was what she said.

I read that and thought "She just launched a hundred dissertations." That's some seriously disturbing stuff.

Then I read up a bit on the earlier incident ("incident", yeah, the one that resulted in her brother's death) and thought the only word she left out was "Mommy".

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[info]agent_hyatt
2010-02-14 12:49 am UTC (link)
...at least there's no racefail?

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[info]brennalarose
2010-02-14 01:39 pm UTC (link)
Oh, god. I'm a little disturbed that my kneejerk reaction was thinking that the death toll must be a typo.

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