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issendai ([info]issendai) wrote in [info]unfunnybusiness,
@ 2010-02-22 23:59:00


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Let me 'splain to you why rape jokes are funny.
Gavin, the friend who's updating "Homeless Peter"'s blog while Peter is off playing a homeless person, 'splains why you just don't understand comedy theory enough to understand that Peter's old stand-up routine is funny.

 

Recently in the Homeless Peter comments, someone found and linked to a video of Peter doing stand-up comedy in 2007 (which can be found here). People are pointing towards this clip as being proof of Peter’s depravity, etc. Because of this, I think I need to share with you a little bit of comedy theory.

Firstly: Peter and I were taught that while doing stand-up comedy, it’s a good idea to adopt a character; they don’t have to be radically different from you, they can even have your name, but it can make things a little easier. That doesn’t have much to do with the rest of what I’m going to say, but you have to remember that there is a separation between what someone is on stage, and what they are in real life.

Secondly: You have to remember that different people have different senses of humour to you; not everyone is the same. I know, weird, right? So, what you find distasteful and humourless, other people may find rib-achingly funny. Also, topics that you may think should never be joked about, others might see some potential for humour in. It’s something that I have learned you (grudgingly) have to accept.

The main thing I wanted to talk about (quickly, as I have to leave for work soon) is that what people say while on stage mostly isn’t <strong>real</strong>. Remember this, it will be important later on. In the clip, for those of you who haven’t watched it, Peter makes some (yes, rather crude) jokes about his “mother” and “father”. Remember what I said just before, about things on stage not always being real? That’s right, this is one of them.

Peter is not talking about his real, actual, factual parents (you could argue that the character is talking about the character’s actual parents, but then you’re venturing into the realm of absurdism). When I was doing stand-up around the same time (which no videos exist of, thank goodness), I made jokes about meeting my first girlfriend while I was drunk, getting invited around to one of my teacher’s houses for a bit of “fun”, and getting an erection while studying the pyramids (it was “the biggest cock-up in history”!). I was not talking about my actual girlfriend, my real teachers or a factual event.

Yes, you may not appreciate his humour, and no, the jokes aren’t very good. But honestly people: get over it! The Homeless February posts really aren’t a forum for general Peter-hating or Peter-loving. If you have comments to make about the video, go over to youtube and make them there.

I’m sure Peter will be delighted to discuss all of this with you when he returns in a week, but as of now, your circular discussions are clogging up my inbox.

 



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[info]napalmnacey
2010-02-23 06:41 am UTC (link)
Grrrrrrrr.

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[info]inalasahl
2010-02-23 07:08 am UTC (link)
Peter is not talking about his real, actual, factual parents

Oh, yes, I'm sure the problem was that people actually thought he'd raped his mom, not that he was, you know, making rape jokes.

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[info]ekaterinv
2010-02-24 02:57 am UTC (link)
Of course, because raping any female but one's mom is subversive and amusing.

Peter and his buddy really don't get it, and don't see a reason to try to get it. They are always right, anyone disagreeing with them is always wrong. I don't understand people who manage to be so impermeable.

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[info]drakyndra
2010-02-23 07:31 am UTC (link)
Congratulations, you've just discovered the other side of the 15 minutes of fame: People will find out about and criticise every horrible or dumb thing you've ever done.

He wanted celebrity... well, here's celebrity for him.

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[info]honorh
2010-02-23 10:47 am UTC (link)
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

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[info]arionhunter
2010-02-23 10:51 am UTC (link)
One day, someone close to him, be they man or woman, will be raped. And he will have to look the police officer in the eye when they tell him that due to whatever minor technicality (drinking, dress, time lapsed between confession and assault), it's useless to prosecute the case. That the rapist will never be brought to justice.

And then the police officer will go back to their desk, look at the huge stack of papers, and sigh, because this is the third family they've told this to today. And both of them will know what it is to feel the despair of powerlessness.

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[info]lady_ganesh
2010-02-23 12:47 pm UTC (link)
He and Amanda Palmer seem to be taking pages from the same playbook.

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[info]brennalarose
2010-02-23 01:48 pm UTC (link)
What

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[info]wallflower
2010-02-23 02:57 pm UTC (link)
I'm still too angry with this douchbaggery of Peter's to summon the proper rage for this. What the fuck is wrong with this dude.

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[info]wook77
2010-02-23 04:16 pm UTC (link)
But he's not taking anything from any actual homeless people!

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typo-free repost
[info]felinephoenix
2010-02-23 04:43 pm UTC (link)
I clicked that link expecting to rage, but instead I'm tearing up. What lovely people. Shame they got tricked by such a scumbag.

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[info]airawyn
2010-02-23 10:39 pm UTC (link)
I agree. If this story is true (I'm not putting anything past Peter) it's awesome that there are real people like this. He needs to come back with at least $100 cash and a bouquet of flowers when he tells them the truth.

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[info]felinephoenix
2010-02-24 01:46 am UTC (link)
Heh, yeah, I should've added that I have trouble believing his story. If it's true, though, he owes that couple big time. Even better, he SHOULD learn from their example and donate to a homeless people who need it after this is all over... but I doubt he's going to.

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[info]sandglass
2010-02-23 07:00 pm UTC (link)
I couldn't read but halfway through. What a miserable, lying scumbag. They're worried what his future will hold--which is a fucking new home that daddy helped pick out.

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[info]wuthers
2010-02-23 08:03 pm UTC (link)
Ugh, and then he followed it up the next day by telling a theatre usher he had no money so it would totally be a-okay for him to let him sneak in and see a movie for free, because it's not like he's losing a ticket sale or anything geez.

The Bob and Carol thing upset me more, but that was kind of just icing on the cake.

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[info]sarracenia
2010-02-23 08:23 pm UTC (link)
Seriously. Even if he thought that it was a-okay for real homeless people to get people to risk their jobs to help them, first off HE'S NOT ACTUALLY HOMELESS. Second off, trying to risk someone else's job so he can get into a movie free on your wonderful magical ~homeless adventure~ just makes him a complete and utter entitlement jackass.

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[info]ekaterinv
2010-02-24 02:53 am UTC (link)
"and a stone. I think I remember my grandparents having a stone in their shower as well – I’ve literally no idea what it’s used for."

Dumbass doesn't even know what a pumice stone is. Gee, maybe if he actually listened to other people and bothered to observe the world outside his skin, he might learn something.

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[info]finchbird
2010-02-23 04:00 pm UTC (link)
I need a teleporter so I can get myself to Australia and punch these people.

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[info]notjo
2010-02-23 07:31 pm UTC (link)
For those who aren't aware, the "jokes" start out like this:

Don't you hate it when yo're having sex with a girl she's saying all the wrong things? Like, instead of screaming your name, she's screaming "rape!" over and over? [laughter] Eventually you just have to say "Shut the hell up, mum." [laugh] Why stop with a rape joke when I can get some incest in there too?

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[info]brown_betty
2010-02-23 07:58 pm UTC (link)
Well, now that I know that wasn't his real actual mom, that joke magically becomes inoffensive and funny!

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[info]sneer
2010-02-23 10:36 pm UTC (link)
Gross. Gross.

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[info]re_weird
2010-02-23 07:50 pm UTC (link)

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[info]brown_betty
2010-02-23 07:59 pm UTC (link)
Ah, I see, it's not real douchebaggery, it's comedy douchebaggery, which may be distinguished from real douchebaggery in that it's followed by the phrase, “get it?”

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[info]sarracenia
2010-02-23 08:20 pm UTC (link)
As long as he's mansplaining about comedy theory, he might also try understanding the difference between humor and "well shit I have no idea how to be funny. Maybe extreme offensiveness will work?"

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[info]sandglass
2010-02-23 08:56 pm UTC (link)
Oh my god, the joke couldn't have been worse. "Don't you hate it when you're having sex with a girl and she keeps saying all the wrong things? Like instead of saying your name, she just keeps yelling rape over and over? Eventually you just have to tell her to shut up."

SERIOUSLY?!?!?!?! That was 20 seconds in, I do not want to listen to what he said about his mom.

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[info]napalmnacey
2010-02-24 12:49 am UTC (link)
The joke was "Eventually you just have to say, "Shut the hell up, Mum." ".

Yeah, he went there.

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[info]sandglass
2010-02-24 01:29 am UTC (link)
. . .Oh. Wow. And I thought it couldn't get any worse.

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[info]napalmnacey
2010-02-24 01:30 am UTC (link)
Yeah. If I had a kid and they told that joke about me? Ohhh they would never hear the end of it.

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