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scifantasy ([info]scifantasy) wrote in [info]unfunnybusiness,
@ 2010-02-23 17:59:00


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What's Spanish for "Big Honking Lawsuit"?
A North Carolina elementary school hired a secretary because, among other reasons of course, she was bilingual. Sensible, in a school district that's half Hispanic and has many parents who don't speak English natively.

Except that in 2008, the principal of the school instituted a policy: Faculty and staff may not speak Spanish to parents. No reason was given.

When a parent came in, hysterical, and claiming (in Spanish, of course) that her seven-year-old had been sexually abused in the school, the principal refused to let the secretary translate, saying that the child should do it. The parent left, still crying, without an answer.

On another occasion, the secretary claims that the assistant principal screamed at her for speaking Spanish to a parent, and told her that she empathized with the parents because "you crossed the border just like them." When the secretary suggested that she might sue for civil rights violations, the assistant principal answered that the secretary could be fired, and she needed a job, because she had children to take care of.

The secretary tried to file a complaint with HR, who said the principal wouldn't change the policy, and the principal wouldn't let her return to the school without signing documents related to the policy (presumably some sort of "I will follow the policy" contract). The secretary asked to be transferred, HR said there were no positions open, and as such, the secretary lost her job.

The secretary is now suing the school district for Title VII discrimination, Title VII retaliation (that is, firing her for making the complaint), negligent supervision of the principal, and wrongful termination under North Carolina law.

Here's a link to the complaint filed in North Carolina state court.

Unfortunately, the Department of Justice declined to sue (which is not to say they don't think there's a case; it's a resources thing, I'd guess), so even if the secretary wins, that won't stop the practice. So, if you want, go here to sign change.org's petition.

In the words of Uncle Yo: "Every morning I wake up, turn on the TV, and feel a need to roll a Sanity check. I've been losing those a lot lately."


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[info]lemone
2010-02-24 12:00 am UTC (link)
Good ole fashioned Southern racism.

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[info]dark_puck
2010-02-24 07:13 pm UTC (link)
Because racists only exist in the South. Seriously, fuck you.

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(no subject) - buddymt, 2010-02-24 07:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lemone, 2010-02-24 08:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dark_puck, 2010-02-24 08:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lemone, 2010-02-24 09:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2010-02-25 05:24 am UTC

[info]bobafeis
2010-02-24 12:19 am UTC (link)
No, seriously, someone please explain the alleged* reasoning behind that policy to me, and why the principal felt that it wouldn't result in a lawsuit.

*Yeah, I can guess the real reasoning.

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[info]notme
2010-02-25 02:35 pm UTC (link)
Probably something about equal treatment of all non-English-speaking parents, with worry that if you allow parent A to speak Spanish, what's keeping parent B from storming in and demanding to speak Swedish with someone working there. Maybe with an additional "if the kids have to speak English in school, their parents should too."

They're all horribly stupid reasons, of course, but then again I guess mono-lingual ignorance is bliss in these cases.

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[info]amadi
2010-02-24 12:33 am UTC (link)
There needs to be a class action suit from all affected families. Then real change could happen. Until the people who are supposed to be given equal access to education resources and so on start making a noise, nothing much is likely to happen.

Now, let's think about why Spanish-speaking recent immigrants might be hesitant to go to authorities...

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[info]scifantasy
2010-02-24 12:34 am UTC (link)
I don't disagree. The Department of Justice's suit, if it had decided to move forward, would have a similar effect. The secretary's lawsuit is less about the policy qua policy and more about how she was wrongfully fired in violation of both state and federal law for her objections to said policy.

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(no subject) - [info]amadi, 2010-02-24 12:48 am UTC

[info]lotus79
2010-02-24 12:45 am UTC (link)
When a parent came in, hysterical, and claiming (in Spanish, of course) that her seven-year-old had been sexually abused in the school, the principal refused to let the secretary translate, saying that the child should do it. The parent left, still crying, without an answer.

*splutters*

So... a child has disclosed to being sexually assaulted, and this principal refused to hear him because he couldn't tell her in English, despite the presence of a translator who was in fact hired for the purpose

what is this I don't even

RAGE!

That woman (the principal) has no business working anywhere near children. NO BUSINESS AT ALL.

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[info]ayezur
2010-02-24 12:54 am UTC (link)
It was a brown kid. They don't count. I mean, duh.

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(no subject) - [info]kookaburra, 2010-02-24 02:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]amadi, 2010-02-24 06:07 pm UTC

[info]rganymede
2010-02-24 01:09 am UTC (link)
Yeah, see the thing about that quote is that it makes really, really suspicious of the principal. I mean, it's totally possible that he's unrelatedly just a total douchebag, but my first thought is that he was either 1.) the sexual abuser, and had been banking on non-English-speaking parents not being able to do anything or 2.) just aware of the abuse and trying to cover it up (ala the Catholic Church).

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(no subject) - [info]profsmith, 2010-02-24 01:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]scifantasy, 2010-02-24 01:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rganymede, 2010-02-24 02:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]scifantasy, 2010-02-24 02:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2010-02-24 02:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2010-02-24 02:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lotus79, 2010-02-24 03:14 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]lotus79, 2010-02-25 04:01 am UTC

[info]lady_ganesh
2010-02-24 02:36 am UTC (link)
JFC.

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[info]ladyophelia14
2010-02-24 01:17 am UTC (link)
I'm sorry, my mind got stuck at sexual abuse. What is going on in schools anymore? Seriously, shouldn't sexual abuse send schools into threat level delta? Even the possibility that someone in a position of trust is victimizing young students... and recent immigrant students, who are so vulnerable and so much less likely to sue...

NO, no, I just can't even let my mind go any further down that road. Screw you, world. SCREW YOU.

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[info]lotus79
2010-02-24 01:57 am UTC (link)
THIS.

As a teacher, that made me want to headdesk repeatedly.

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(no subject) - [info]tachikoma01, 2010-02-24 06:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]silrana, 2010-02-25 04:07 am UTC

[info]brennalarose
2010-02-24 01:22 am UTC (link)
BRB, going to NC to bust some heads

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(no subject) - [info]supersyncspaz7, 2010-02-24 03:59 am UTC
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[info]cyndra_falin
2010-02-24 02:45 am UTC (link)
Fuck that asshole principle to HELL and back. FUCK her!!! And this??

When a parent came in, hysterical, and claiming (in Spanish, of course) that her seven-year-old had been sexually abused in the school, the principal refused to let the secretary translate, saying that the child should do it. The parent left, still crying, without an answer.

FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU!!!!!

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[info]alexa
2010-02-24 02:51 am UTC (link)
My. What a sensible and productive policy. Of course, it is an elementary school's prerogative to demand all it's students and student's families learn to speak fluent English. That'll teach 'em!

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[info]thebratqueen
2010-02-24 03:23 am UTC (link)
What? Was South Carolina getting too much attention for WTFery? Was North Carolina jealous?

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[info]myluckyseven
2010-02-24 05:07 am UTC (link)
Holy shit, what is this? "All Schools in US Go Crazy" week?! D:

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[info]gardnerhill
2010-02-24 07:36 am UTC (link)
One of the bitch-faced hausfraus who use our condo pool was furious at hearing me speak Spanish to some of the other pool visitors, explaining that she didn't feel a need to learn any Spanish -- excuse me, I should quote correctly, "I'm not speakin' no Mexican!" She was proud of her daughter countervailing my explanation that we're a multilingual state -- "Yeah, but then we had the Alamo so we don't need to speak that now." (We're in California, by the way, not Texas.)

If you can figure out the logic of the previous paragraph, I think you'll get a handle on the principal's mind.

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(no subject) - [info]pariforma, 2010-02-24 02:40 pm UTC
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[info]lovecoconuts
2010-02-24 08:45 am UTC (link)
"When a parent came in, hysterical, and claiming (in Spanish, of course) that her seven-year-old had been sexually abused in the school, the principal refused to let the secretary translate, saying that the child should do it. The parent left, still crying, without an answer."

!?!?!?!

I can understand how my old school thought that in order to improve English and Chinese fluency, they felt that they had to discourage its faculty and students from conversing in the local dialect.

But just WTF was that principal thinking? When a parent's upset that her child may had been Raped In The School, it's just NOT the time to enforce the English only rule.

What an idiot.

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[info]ruslan
2010-02-24 11:06 am UTC (link)
Wait, hold the phone. Somebody in the school sexually abused a young kid? Holy shit. Do any other articles mention if they got who did it and if the kid is okay? I'm searching around but I can't find anything. Just a bunch of websites with some absolutely nauseating comments.

Yeah, who cares that there's a possibly somebody in the school is doing something really fucking creepy to that kid (also, check out the "learn what real assault is" comment). If they wanted our laws and police force to protect their children, they should pay taxes and learn English! They all come here expecting a handout! Our taxpayer dollars!!!1!!1

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(no subject) - [info]snarkhunter, 2010-02-24 01:19 pm UTC
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[info]telegramsam
2010-02-24 02:04 pm UTC (link)
And people wonder why the administration of public schools have such a dismal reputation? Assholes.

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[info]veneotaqueen
2010-02-24 04:43 pm UTC (link)
"What's Spanish for "Big Honking Lawsuit"?" Easy! It spells "Gran Demanda por todo lo alto".
I also have another Spanish words for the principal and all the stff who les't this bullshit happen, but I'm sure you have some more appropiate in English to call them.

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(no subject) - [info]sukeban, 2010-02-25 07:54 am UTC

[info]tachikoma01
2010-02-24 06:08 pm UTC (link)
Leeeeet me guess... she's one of those people who, despite insisting immigrants learn to speak DAMN ENGLISH, screams and stomps when she's in an international airport and absolutely everything isn't subtitled in English.

Because learning a foreign language is for dem other peoples.

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[info]silmaril
2010-02-24 07:44 pm UTC (link)
Error.

Falha.

Échec.

Fallimento.

That's the four major Latin/Romance languages for you there. Let me add one in my native tongue:

Yanlış.

And to sum up:

Failure.

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[info]lexingmouse3
2010-02-25 12:36 am UTC (link)
When a parent came in, hysterical, and claiming (in Spanish, of course) that her seven-year-old had been sexually abused in the school, the principal refused to let the secretary translate, saying that the child should do it. The parent left, still crying, without an answer.

OMGWTF?

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