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another reason to hate people, jesus wept, oh for god's sake, oh john ringo no, omg i'm not like those *other* women, sure we don't need no feminism

Jezebel has some...growing pains.
Shoot the Messenger is an NYC based live talk show, where guests are interviewed. One segment is "Thinking and Drinking," where guests have a cocktail and discuss current affairs. Editors of Jezebel, Moe and Tracie, were guests last week. The host, Lizz Winstead, is not pleased with their interview. She says they were sloshed the whole time and were poor role models for the many young women who idolize them. Selected video clips and quotes from Winstead at Huffington Post:

The Jezebels define the "rapists of our generation"

Tracie: "I live in Williamsburg, there aren't very assertive men there"

Moe: "The thing about the rapists of our generation, is that they all use drugs, they all have some sort of drug they use on you, so it's good to feel, and I don't know if this has happed to me or if I just drink too much...

Moe: "It's really hard to prosecute them (rapists), so you should try to avoid them at all costs."

Tracie: "I once paid someone to rape me once."

Tracie: "Well, I didn't pay for it, I had a magazine pay for it

Tracie: "I moved here when I was 18 and you think you would encounter more rapists in a big city like this, but, I don't know, I just haven't."

The comments at the previously mentioned Huff Post blog are nasty, and the comments at Shoot the Messenger are nasty. Meanwhile Tracie posts at her personal blog chalking it up to too much booze interacting with drugs that aid cessation of smoking, and that the whole conversation got out of hand. It is mentioned in her comments that there was allegedly someone at the event who didn't want to sit on a toilet seat Slut Machine (aka Tracie) sat on beforehand because she had gonorrhea a few years back.

Meanwhile, there is no official response at Jezebel. A lot of the longtime readers are upset and have nowhere to discuss it. So what do they do? They threadjack a post by Tracie about emotionally vampiric dudes? I don't know, I can't get through the whole thing. It's all quiet until someone near word for word quotes Tracie's interview:

Was he a pussy from Williamsburg? At least then you know he'd be too much of a fairy to rape you.

Comment moderator Hortense tries to tell posters, for the nth time today, to email the editors and not bring it up in unrelated threads. But alas! The elephant in the room is apparently too big to ignore. As of now there's 500+ comments on that post, many of them bringing up the Event Which Must Not Be Named. Watch commenters get on the backs of the editors! Watch commenters gang up on each other! Will the editors talk about what happened? Only time will tell, but if they do there will be a shitstorm.

You may remember The last big shitstorm at Jezebel, when Moe Jessica and Tracie discussed the new Roman Polanski doc on HBO and said it was probably consensual because the 13-year old had quaaludes and a relationship with an older man before, which resulted in 600+ comments on both that post and a follow-up.

Are the commenters entitled? Are the editors inconsiderate to their community? You decide!

ETA: There is a post up from managing editor Anna. Five hours in there are already over 750 comments.