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tetradecimal (tetradecimal) wrote in [info]unfunnybusiness,
@ 2010-06-15 12:24:00


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* The fic: http://gatorgrrrl.livejournal.com/166197.html and the art: http://mementis.livejournal.com/1772.html

* Highlights from the fic, in case you don't want to read the whole thing (and why wouldn't you?)

* "I am very sorry to hear that my choice of setting offended you. It was not my intention in the least to treat the Haiti earthquake lightly or to diminish the devastation of it. I tried my best to treat the topic with respect and frankly, I think I did a decent job of it."

* The soundtrack! Also: "When I signed up for Big Bang back in January, I had a completely different story in mind. An SPN gen story, in fact. That idea languished inside my head for a few weeks until I finally gave up trying to force it and moved on. Then the idea of a different J2 AU fic popped into my head, but again, it didn't go anywhere. Then it occurred to me: Why not use current events as the setting? The Haiti earthquake was still in the news and the more I saw about it, the more I wanted to use it until it seemed like the best idea ever. (That, of course, is only my opinion.)"

* "For what it's worth, I apologize."

ETA: Relevant links from amazonziti.

ETA 2: (I'm assuming there's more of this out there, but I don't have the heart to look) "But when I fucking cried over this last night, I cried because all I could think -- ALL I could think -- was of this woman writing a motherfucking 80,000-word story, and unveiling it with terror and excitement first in her mind. And having it blow up so spectacularly in her face."

ETA 3: New apology, fic taken down. "This is the last thing I will be saying about this situation. At this point, there is nothing else I can do. I have acknowledged my mistakes and apologized for the offense and outrage my story caused. I acknowledge that my actions in posting the story have hurt a lot of people. I see now that I failed in so many ways. The fact that this has snowballed in many instances into a free-for-all of hatred is very sad. I regret that so many hurtful things have been said to and about people who had nothing to do with the fic besides reading it. Going beyond the fic to bash me personally and calling me names is expected, if unnecessary, but attacking people just because they happened to like something you didn't is not fair."



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[info]pariforma
2010-06-15 05:19 pm UTC (link)
I've already read some of this and was wondering when this was going to show up here. Also wondering if there is some extra-special batshit about the SPN fandom, since this is apparently not the first Setting of Total Tastelessness it has featured in AU fic.

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kittenwings
2010-06-15 05:37 pm UTC (link)
I do like reading fic in SPN fandom - THERE IS a lot of good fic in the fandom - I haven't really written any, but this plus the previous con wank makes me want to go back to writing ABOFAL permanently.

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[info]misachan
2010-06-15 05:42 pm UTC (link)
Yeesh, what a mess.

This kind of wank crops up after every big disaster; I remember cringing at the spate of post-911 "The X-Men go to Ground Zero" fics.

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[info]white_serpent
2010-06-15 05:44 pm UTC (link)
Huh. Just read the brief excerpts. Wasn't the baby smothering thing from M*A*S*H? I'd look through the fic for the entire scene, but I'm not searching all of the separate sections.

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[info]sneer
2010-06-15 06:06 pm UTC (link)
I tried my best to treat the topic with respect and frankly, I think I did a decent job of it."

Well, you didn't try very fucking hard now, did you?

Hell, at the very least--calling a different language than the one you grew up speaking "gibbering" and "jabbering?" That's your idea of "respect?"

Ugh, fuck you. Just fuck you.

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[info]mariem_1
2010-06-15 06:17 pm UTC (link)
[info]amazonziti compiled a handy list of links concerning this.

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[info]brennalarose
2010-06-15 06:26 pm UTC (link)
Wat.

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[info]agent_hyatt
2010-06-15 06:35 pm UTC (link)
My impression was that her "apology" post spent more time establishing how huuuurt she felt by being ~despised~ than about actually apologizing. Someone with a higher tolerance for bullshit care to confirm that?

Dear god, I am fucking tired of the intentions excuse. Okay, so you didn't mean to be offensive. Well, that's better than meaning to be offensive, and makes it more forgivable IF you're actually sincerely sorry and mean to make an effort to learn why it was offensive and not do something like that ever again. Ignorance doesn't get you off the hook for mistakes, it just makes it easier to earn forgiveness after you address that ignorance.

Also, some incredibly trivial unfunny thoughts:

“That’s what cats do, Jensen. They judge. Sure, they purr and pretend to love you, but really, they’re plotting your death.”

My aunt's cats acting especially nice to her ever since she got sick and jumping up on her lap to cuddle? Guess it's not because they love her and worry about her being unhappy but are trying to kill her instead. Good to know!

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[info]lady_ganesh
2010-06-15 06:51 pm UTC (link)
She was yet another victim upon whom I inflicted part one of my fic

Okay, guess what word we should not use for a beta reader, when one's fic addresses a humanitarian crisis that took hundreds of thousands of lives? Hmmmm.

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[info]finchbird
2010-06-15 07:27 pm UTC (link)
I still can't believe none of the author's betas or the artist never told her this fic was a bad idea. And the people who praise it.... I really hope some of them are able to see what's wrong with this fic in the end.

And for added fail, [info]txvoodoo posted an excerpt in which Jared tells Jensen he's getting sent to Chile after that country's earthquake.

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[info]acediance
2010-06-15 07:27 pm UTC (link)
Wow. Wow.

It's pretty bad when you can tell, just from the artwork alone, that this is a story about white people being Our Heroes and the Haitians are just... background props. Then I read the excerpts and it was a thousand times worse.

Who on Earth would think this was a good idea? I mean, really?

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[info]chienne
2010-06-15 07:54 pm UTC (link)
... Why, oh why, would someone think this was a good idea?

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[info]loopywafflehead
2010-06-15 08:48 pm UTC (link)
Those quotes made me cringe so much and they just kept getting worse and then it ends with the thing about the car and dear God. (I didn't understand the one about the taxi driver until I read the comments - all taxi drivers are foreigners, apparently. Ugh.) And what was the deal with going on about how big the Abraham character is? He's the same size as Jared Padalecki!

It looks like the author has another problematic fic, this time with an evil Muslim terrorist character. Quoting from spnpermanon:

So the villain - the one Jared is seducing and spying on - is called Alain, and is French and Saudi-Arabian (mom's French and Dad's Saudi). But he decides to become a terrorist because his dad was a terrorist, and no other explanation or development is given [the whole terrorist plot is not that well developed]. His coloring is described as Arab and like his Dad, and not French, while his mom is of course an elegant, beautiful French woman. She is portrayed very sympathetically and the one good thing about Alain is shown to be his affection and adoration for his mother. IDK, there are uncomfortable connotations of inheriting his misguided, evil terrorist-ness from his dad and the Arab culture, and his sympathetic side from his white French mom.

To be fair, I haven't read the fic and this is someone else's summary, so maybe it's not that bad. But I'm not hopeful.

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[info]veneotaqueen
2010-06-15 08:51 pm UTC (link)
And I thought that the Hetalia fandom has the record in Tastless Use Of Real Tragedies As Themes For Fics. I still shiver with the fact that someone filled the Rape of Nanking prompt in the English-language kink meme, and by the fact that someone prompted Spain/Franco in the Spanish one. And the least we speak of those fics about the 9/11, the better.

Then again, I've seen things even more exploitative and inappropriate in published professional fiction (and some actual news media). But still, why the heck, Supernatural fangirl who decided to publish this thing online, why the hell.

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[info]ladyvyola
2010-06-15 08:54 pm UTC (link)
I was reading those excerpts and, my hand to god, I thought I was going to have a seizure. My eye muscles started twitching, spots floated in front of my eyes, tunnel vision started -- I literally could not look at some of those passages.

It's toxic through the computer moniter. It's weaponized wtf. We should aim it carefully at...

...no, there's no excuse, reason, or use for this. There is no good. It should not be. All I (and my blood pressure) can do is thank those that actually read this and spread the word so that the rest of us could avoid it. Bossymarmalade, I salute thee.

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[info]sneer
2010-06-15 09:49 pm UTC (link)
sf_drama has picked this up, and there's already fail in the comments.

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[info]tarash
2010-06-15 09:51 pm UTC (link)
Somehow, I doubt the fic author had the same 'zomg must use this as the setting for my SPN RPF AU FIC!' response to, say, hurricane Katrina.

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[info]dere
2010-06-15 10:08 pm UTC (link)
I actually had to stop reading because the simultaneous laughing and crying was fucking me up. That's INSANE. God, people are fucking horrible.

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(no subject) - [info]dere, 2010-06-16 03:16 pm UTC

[info]sistercoyote
2010-06-15 10:54 pm UTC (link)
Funny, this just showed up on my Other F-list, and the author of that post (who was shall we say, opposed to this) said the following:

Or why [authors] don't have a sense of perspective about what makes a good story in the first place because "thousands of people have died; therefore, porn" really does not.

And, yeah, that sort of sums up my thoughts on yaoi right there.

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[info]blue_penguin
2010-06-15 11:14 pm UTC (link)
When I was writing this fic, I never once thought about it in terms of the noble white men helping the poor People of Color in order to pat themselves on the back.

Very few people do, that's the thing. It's like... I was having an argument, recently, with a friend who believed that the lack of characters of color on TV was an active conspiracy against POC by network execs and the like. But I really think that it's more that people just don't think about this stuff -- it never occurs to them that something might be offensive. And that's in fact worse, because instead of a few people on top being assholes, it's a whole country's worth (well, several) of people who generally mean well but unthinkingly write or do or say things that are problematic and then when they get called on them they get very defensive because they're not racist, they don't hate POC, it wasn't their intention to offend anyone! Which... is pretty much the definition of privilege, and I'm preaching to the choir, but. Basically, this girl is a textbook case of that kind of mindset.

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[info]thebratqueen
2010-06-16 01:01 am UTC (link)
The thing - well, one of many things - that gets me is that while yes, there are ways to write fictional stories about real-life horror without failing about it not only did she not do any of them, I'm pretty sure she did all the ways you can do it wrong. Like if I had to make a list of all the ways to fuck up the process, I'm hard pressed to come up with any that she didn't do. I think all that was missing is mailing copies of the story down to Haiti to make sure the survivors could read it.

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[info]pandonkey
2010-06-16 02:01 am UTC (link)
Ergh. I suspected it from her name, but her user info confirms it: she and I went to the same university. I feel a very strong sense of shame by association, because that story is simply horrifying.

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[info]otoselkie
2010-06-16 05:04 am UTC (link)
I saw this very, very peripherally (Architeuthis being a class act about it), and went "Well, that sounds horrible."

Then I got to this thread, and my jaw has literally dropped. I haven't even read the outlinks, nor do I want to.

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[info]minibalrogmum
2010-06-16 11:47 am UTC (link)
Someone's taking issue with at all the talk about this story over at wank_report, I see.

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[info]theelusiven
2010-06-16 12:31 pm UTC (link)
The worst part is that most of the sf_drama post consists of "Talking about racism is hard! LOL FANFIC."

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