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Like a book club, except with more sex! ([info]notjo) wrote in [info]unfunnybusiness,
@ 2010-08-26 15:08:00


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Entry tags:another reason to hate people, politics

And in follow-up to the last post: Mosque desecrated
NY POST: 'Drunk' desecration at mosque [Their website is terrible to look at, and the comments are horrid]


A drunk barged into a Queens mosque last night and shouted anti-Muslim slurs as he urinated on prayer rugs, cops and witnesses said.

Evening prayers were disrupted at the Iman Mosque on Steinway Street in Astoria when the unhinged man "came in with a beer bottle in his hands, clearly very intoxicated," said Mustapha Sadouki, who was attending services.

"He fumbled over to our rugs where people were praying" and then committed the despicable desecration, Sadouki said,

The man, identified by cops as Omar Rivera, also allegedly shouted slurs, calling the worshippers "terrorists."

Two men managed to subdue him. They put him a back room and called 911.

Cops took him to a hospital and later charged him with criminal trespass.

"He stuck up his middle finger and cursed at everyone," said Sadouki, 43.

"No one can pray now because the rugs are completely soiled. It was disgusting.

"He calls us terrorists, yet he comes into our mosque and terrorizes other people.

"This is a true hate crime."
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[info]tachikoma01
2010-08-26 07:18 pm UTC (link)
Apparently a number of people feel that not liking a religion is grounds for disrespect and property damage. Wonder if they'd feel the same if someone came into their church during the middle of Sunday services and pissed all over the pews. Or if a neighbor they were having a disagreement came over and peed all over their porch.

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[info]wook77
2010-08-26 08:15 pm UTC (link)
Can't they get him for more than just criminal trespass? Isn't there some sort of crime to file with "assaulting someone with your disgusting body fluids"? Cause if people were praying on the rugs at the time... um, ew.

I think someone needs to go into this guy's house and pee on whatever it is that he and his family are using at the time. Perhaps then he'll realize what a gross, disgusting, awful, nasty, appalling crime this is.

Probably not.

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[info]freezer
2010-08-29 11:36 am UTC (link)
From what I've heard, Criminal Trespass and Vandalism (AKA "Peeing on Crap") are the charges. So there's that.

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It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood....
[info]telegramsam
2010-08-26 08:25 pm UTC (link)
Someone gets shit-face-drunk and acts like a complete fucknugget douchewaffle, what else is new? They should have charged him with vandalism as well, at the very least.

If I lived next to that guy, he'd SO be getting a bag of dirty cat litter on his front porch.

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Re: It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood....
[info]ekaterinv
2010-08-26 09:31 pm UTC (link)
I'm surprised there's not some specific crime related to attacking a religious property. Didn't they pass something like that to try to combat burnings/desecration of black churches?

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Re: It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood....
[info]freezer
2010-08-29 11:37 am UTC (link)
If the procecutor wants to Send A Message, a Hate Crimes enhancement seems appropriate.

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[info]snarkhunter
2010-08-26 09:15 pm UTC (link)
What an absolute and total asshole.

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[info]brennalarose
2010-08-26 09:51 pm UTC (link)
That fucking barbarian. What is wrong with people that they think it's okay to do that to a place of worship, any place of worship?

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[info]telegramsam
2010-08-26 10:32 pm UTC (link)
Alcohol, bigotry and stupidity are rarely a good combination.

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[info]darksumomo
2010-08-26 10:56 pm UTC (link)
NMA World Edition on You Tube: Is Islamophobia sweeping the US? 美國反伊斯蘭情緒太超過?

This video was posted this morning, but it didn't include this particular story. Just as well, it's not at all funny.

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[info]mahananda
2010-08-27 04:13 am UTC (link)
I'm so godsdamned tired of people who try to laugh this type of thing of as 'Oh, well they were drunk! It wasn't their fault! They don't really hate blacks/arabs/women/gays/whatever, it was the hooch.'

As if people don't make the conscious effort to inebriate themselves to the point of stupidity. Much less, the fact that the alcohol doesn't plant these ideas in a person's head via magic. It just lowers the inhibitions enough that the terrible things in there seem to suddenly be a-okay.

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[info]tardiscontrol
2010-08-27 04:21 am UTC (link)
Much less, the fact that the alcohol doesn't plant these ideas in a person's head via magic. It just lowers the inhibitions enough that the terrible things in there seem to suddenly be a-okay.

This.

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[info]edana_ni_emer
2010-08-27 04:22 am UTC (link)
I've never seen anyone do anything drunk that they didn't on at least *some* level want to do sober.

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[info]telegramsam
2010-08-27 12:24 pm UTC (link)
Pretty much this.

It's not like getting drunk is the same as catching the flu. There's a definite choice involved. And the behavior that ensues is not completely uncontrollable.

I wish I still had a copy of that study done ages ago where they switched the beer at a frat party with non-alcoholic beer without telling anyone and observed a lot of the party-goers acting distinctly "drunk" not too long into the party. As much of it is learned "drunk" behavior as the effects of actual intoxication. Alcohol can't magically turn a genuinely nice person into a raging asshole.

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[info]aliaras
2010-08-29 03:40 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, exactly. This, FWIW, is my guaranteed have-fun-drinking strategy at parties. I have one or two drinks and act like I had three or four, I have a great time, remember the whole thing, and I'm never hung over in the morning.

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[info]rosehiptea
2010-08-27 04:49 am UTC (link)
I've known more than one person who liked to get drunk, and yet somehow none of them saw the need to pee in a house of worship.

I feel so awful for the worshippers.

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[info]keieeeye
2010-08-31 10:35 am UTC (link)
I have never seen Islamaphobia on the ingredients list of a bottle.

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[info]sandglass
2010-08-27 05:13 am UTC (link)
TPM says the NYPD are denying that it was it was related to bias. Apparently he didn't even know he was in a mosque, never shouted any racial slurs (but non-racial slurs, maybe?), and the NY Post has adjusted its article to reflect that.

Also they're hinting that he might have been set off by his sister dying.

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[info]telegramsam
2010-08-27 12:26 pm UTC (link)
Was his sister a Muslim? Was she run over by a bus driven by a Muslim? I don't see how that could "make" him piss all over a mosque shouting abuse at the worshippers.

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[info]sandglass
2010-08-27 11:26 pm UTC (link)
I think the idea is that he stumbled into, and subsequently vandalized, a building that just happened to be a mosque? I don't know, I'm not sure I buy it, but that's what they're saying.

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[info]staroverthebay
2010-08-27 11:30 pm UTC (link)
I call bullshit on that. How can you not know a place of worship, no matter how fucking drunk you are?

I could be wrong, of course, but it sounds like an attempt to displace blame. It sounds like they're making excuses just because the vandalism victims are Muslims. *quiet rage*

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[info]telegramsam
2010-08-27 11:30 pm UTC (link)
If he was saying derogatory things about Muslims then he knew exactly where he was.

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[info]sandglass
2010-08-28 12:06 am UTC (link)
The police are claiming that he wasn't.

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[info]telegramsam
2010-08-28 12:28 am UTC (link)
If the people in the mosque said he was, how do the police know different, if they didn't show up until after they'd put him the back room and called 911?

Sounds like they want to sweep the whole thing under the piss-stained prayer rug, but give me a break.

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[info]cyndra_falin
2010-08-27 05:41 am UTC (link)
*sigh*

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[info]blue_linnet
2010-08-27 11:32 pm UTC (link)
Wow, that's just APPALLING. Not to mention stupid--going into an area crowded with people of a particular religion (etc) and vandalizing and screaming hate slurs seems like a really great way to get beat up. Good on the guys there for NOT adding to the violence, but rather putting him in a back room and calling the cops!

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[info]staroverthebay
2010-08-28 12:25 am UTC (link)
Considering it was a holy place of worship where this took place, I can't imagine that the people in the building at the time were too keen to use violence. Contrary to popular belief, Islam is not a highly violent religion -- certainly no worse than Christianity has been in its history. Think about it -- if someone walked into a church during a sermon and started shouting invectives and urinating on the pews or the carpets or whatever, would the priest(/pastor/minister/whatever denomination leader you want to use) condone using violence to subdue the offender, or pay back the insult?

That's part of what makes this so appalling, if you ask me -- he walks into a place of worship and assaults (verbally, biophysically, emotionally, etc) the people inside who are quietly practicing their faith. I believe that if there's one public place a person should always feel safe and accepted, it's at a place of worship.

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[info]blue_linnet
2010-08-28 07:36 am UTC (link)
Good point. I'm not religious myself so it didn't really occur to me that people in a place of worship for any religion would be reluctant to do any violence, even in self-defense. Definitely didn't mean to imply Muslims would be more violent or anything like that!

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[info]lady_jafaria
2010-08-28 05:03 am UTC (link)
Muslims know exactly how this story would have been treated if one of them had so much as slapped him. There are enough people making excuses for him as it is, think what'd happen if he could be spun as a victim of "violent Muslims." Even though he provoked them.

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[info]tachikoma01
2010-08-29 02:49 pm UTC (link)
Considering that some people are calling on the people who restrained the pisser to be charged with 'false arrest' for restraining him... yeah, I have to agree with your comment there.

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[info]aliaras
2010-08-29 03:41 pm UTC (link)
What the hell? I mean, he got arrested in the end, so it's not even like they held him when he wasn't going to be arrested -- and he was pissing all over their stuff.

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redwarrior
2010-08-29 12:51 am UTC (link)
What a moron.

Although there's a dash of irony there in that a man with the surname of "Rivera" would treat Muslims like that when others would do the same thing to Latinos...

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