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tehrin
2011-05-24 04:56 pm UTC (link)

This began as a a co-fucking-signed comment, but I ended up having A LOT OF WORDS for what I think of what Turmiel (and carlanime's e-mail which I finally decided to read) did which I really didn't think I'd express in this ufb entry.

Turmiel has suffered grief in the past, but it's been 10 years and her commitment to exposing Andy is really beyond creepy at this point. And for all her "good intentions," she doesn't take care to consider the fact that by calling the police or even the media, she could be very well be interfering with a police investigation which is not going to help the families or the police at all. Her cause is unrelated. Andy may be or may have been conning/conned people in the past, but she didn't put the gun in that man's hand and she did not deserve to get shot and those people did not deserve to die.

Anecdote time. Like I said, I didn't think I'd type this here, but

turmiel is REALLY ticking me off:

My very close friend's mother WAS in Andy's position of being at the scene of a crime a few months ago where two people were killed and being trapped in a building, trying to get to safety. It also involved a husband shooting their spouse and another person. Thankfully my friend's mother wasn't shot.

She isn't Andy and her past doesn't resemble Andy's in the slightest. But if ANYONE dared do this to her or the victims by interfering with the police investigation even if she had a similar past as he does, I cannot imagine how much more pain my friend and her mother would be in as well as relatives and friends of the victims and the shooter. No matter how much someone felt that Andy or another survivor of a homocide caused it for contrived reasons based on past experiences with them that HAVE NOTHING TO DO with why someone would be willing to kill others, they DO NOT deserve to have their trauma or the victim's families caused by the directly by the incident multiplied by someone (who is not involved personally involved or invested in the incident as a result of being a witness, being a victim, being a perpetrator, or being part of the victims' and the shooter's lives or any other party involved) "trying to warn others" that the survivor might be the cause because of past experiences in fucking fandom or anything else and it is far from actual help.

For fuck's sake, turmiel may have known Andy ten years ago on a personal level, but her current involvement involves cyber-stalking Andy due to her grudge and White Knighting. I am not saying that Andy won't try to con others again or is not conning others currently (I don't know him or anything else beyond what I have read on wank communities), but turmiel is not involved in the incident or has a personal attachment to the families. She is taking the shooting and trying to make herself involved, trying to make some part of it about herself. It's sick. All she has done is try to interfere with the police investigation.

For the record, my friend's mom is doing better. I am not going to link to anything about it because it isn't anyone's business and I am not going to reveal their identities for that same reason.

I can safely say that any sympathy I had for

turmiel in the past is wasted and gone. And those are my final thoughts on her unwanted, unnecessary do-gooding.

Edited because I forgot to close a tag again.

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	ealusaid 2011-05-24 09:32 pm UTC (link)
	If I'm ever physically near you? I want to buy you a beer. Or possibly a whole six-pack. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	tehrin 2011-05-25 01:46 am UTC (link)
	Would be fun times. I'm a light weight and I sing when I am drunk. :) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sisterelwood 2011-05-25 02:35 am UTC (link)
	I need to marry you. Now. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	tehrin 2011-05-25 02:58 am UTC (link)
	Then we would be complete name twins. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sisterelwood 2011-05-25 04:04 am UTC (link)
	\o/ (Reply to this)(Parent)

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