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radiotrash ([info]radiotrash) wrote in [info]unfunnybusiness,
@ 2008-08-09 11:44:00
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WBC Update
Sadly they snuck across the border. ETA: They never showed up.

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[info]rekall
2008-08-09 07:15 pm UTC (link)
People need to stop giving the crazies attention. They're like the hyper-active kid in class, the more you pay attention to them, the more they like it.

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[info]radiotrash
2008-08-09 07:18 pm UTC (link)
I know. It's so hard though because what they do is absolutely disgusting.

I just wish that we could somehow turn them to protesting Scientology. Then both groups could just take it other out in a wave of hate and brain-washing.

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[info]watersword
2008-08-09 08:25 pm UTC (link)
OMG, that would be so awesome. Please, Jesus, let that happen.

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Just think...
[info]radiotrash
2008-08-09 08:47 pm UTC (link)
WNC wouldn't protest with masks and the Scientologists would take photos and start harassing them/trying to sue. Of course the WBC is a clan of lawyers so they're counter-harass/sue. And we could all sit back with some popcorn and watch.

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Re: Just think...
[info]radiotrash
2008-08-09 08:47 pm UTC (link)
Fffft, that's WBC. Stupid fingers.

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[info]sisterelwood
2008-08-09 08:09 pm UTC (link)
I rather hope the WBC people get out of line. Canadian laws regarding speech are different than American laws and I like the WBC to learn about cultural differences. That, and the fact that if you break Canadian laws while in Canada the US government won't be able to do much to help you.

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[info]vorpal_blade
2008-08-09 08:51 pm UTC (link)
I hope that they either end up in Canadian prison or that when they slipped across the border they failed to have the proper documentation with them that would allow them to re-enter the US. I mean, the Canadians fucked up by letting them in--let them be Canada's problem now and good riddance. ;)

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[info]threegoldfish
2008-08-09 09:13 pm UTC (link)
If they entered the country illegally by "slipping past" boarder guards, couldn't they just be picked up and deported if they show?

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[info]atalantapendrag
2008-08-09 09:16 pm UTC (link)
That was my thought.

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[info]wonderfish
2008-08-09 09:41 pm UTC (link)
Yeah. I don't know much about the relevant rules, so I don't know what they can do to them, but it's not as if they don't know where they're going to be.

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[info]missm
2008-08-09 09:31 pm UTC (link)
I think one sign of the difference in attitude is that this was in the "Crime" section of the paper.

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[info]radiotrash
2008-08-09 09:38 pm UTC (link)
I think I remember reading that they protested in Canada before though so they might know how far they can push it.

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[info]julesnoctambule
2008-08-10 12:26 am UTC (link)
Oh please!

Please, please, please! Jebus, if you're real, make it so!

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[info]rennyn_alerothi
2008-08-09 09:27 pm UTC (link)
I can't think of anything to say, other than "I hope they get lost up there and are never heard from again."

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[info]galadriel
2008-08-09 10:17 pm UTC (link)
Yet they've failed to show so far: Bus-victim funeral not protested. They also failed to show at the two plays they were planning to protest late this week, after being told at least once that they'd be arrested on sight (at the Red Deer, Alberta performance). ^_^

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[info]rennyn_alerothi
2008-08-10 01:12 am UTC (link)
Thank God! Still, I wonder what happened to them if they're still up there? I can just picture the WBC embarking on a "protest of godless milk in bags" campaign, from the sound of them. >:\

Is it too much to hope that they'll be detained as enemy combatants on their way back over the border?

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[info]galadriel
2008-08-10 01:23 am UTC (link)
Honestly, since it was Shirley Phelps-Roper who claimed that some of them had made it across the border, and not anyone in an official position, I'm actually sort of wondering if anyone came at all. Luckily, we have laws against hate speech, so it sort of curtails what they can do without getting arrested.

*G* We can only hope.

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[info]issendai
2008-08-10 03:00 am UTC (link)
I secretly want them to have vastly underestimated how big Canada is, and to be stuck a province and a half away on a slow bus. :)

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[info]caoilte
2008-08-10 04:38 am UTC (link)
And a Greyhound at that ;)

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[info]notjo
2008-08-10 02:48 pm UTC (link)
We had fundies out yesterday at our Busker's Festival trying to use Tim McLean's death as a religious point, with extra graphic descriptions.

But they assured me they were better than Phelps.

Then they were thrown out by security.

HA HA.

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[info]issendai
2008-08-10 03:11 pm UTC (link)
WIN.

Why in hell are fundies targeting this particular murder? The victim was a straight white working-class guy and the killer was a paranoid schizophrenic. I'm not seeing the Hand of God here.

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[info]cassildra
2008-08-10 03:41 pm UTC (link)
IAWTC.

Seriously--is it the fact that it's so gruesome? Or the fact that it's garnering worldwide attention?

I think Phelps and co. are the ultimate trolls. :/

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[info]moonjaguar
2008-08-10 07:14 pm UTC (link)
Seriously--is it the fact that it's so gruesome? Or the fact that it's garnering worldwide attention?

Bingo. Nail on the head. They're a big bunch of attention whores using their "religion" as a reason to go trolling.

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[info]cassildra
2008-08-10 08:42 pm UTC (link)
It's disgusting, and it's sad. These jerks need to just... God, I wish I could yell GB2/b/ and not look like an ass.

It's frustrating, and it makes me sad, that people think they should treat other human beings like this.

And they're supposedly Christian. I always thought that the Golden Rule was a big part of Christian teachings? (I honestly don't know--I never really paid attention as a kid. I'm not trying to be flippant, here.)

I think I'm so frustrated because I don't understand how people can treat others this way.

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[info]evilsqueakers
2008-08-11 06:02 am UTC (link)
I always thought that the Golden Rule was a big part of Christian teachings?

If it is, I would like to see that whole 'treat others as you wish to be treated' be handed out while we're all alive to see the pure returned. Just to even up the score.

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[info]galadriel
2008-08-10 04:33 pm UTC (link)
A slow boat bus to China B.C.? *G* Well, it'd be fitting, at least.

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[info]plazmah
2008-08-10 04:25 pm UTC (link)
I can just picture the WBC embarking on a "protest of godless milk in bags" campaign

Ironically, I just got milk up my nose from laughing at that line. Kudos!

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[info]rosalita
2008-08-10 12:42 am UTC (link)
I really, really hate these people.

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[info]velvet_mace
2008-08-10 02:43 am UTC (link)
I wish they'd all just die of hemophilia or whatever dire degenerative disorder that much incest and bile will give you.

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[info]harrylovesron
2008-08-10 03:23 am UTC (link)
From the second article:

inform Canadians that his horrifying death was God's punishment for the country's policies that enable homosexuality, abortion, and adultery.

OK, I know homosexual marriage and abortion are legal in Canadaplace. That's the first two. But how do they enable adultery? o_O Is it some kind of wacky fundie logic that any homosexual relationship is tantamount to cheating because it's not a man and a woman together and Carrying Out God's Will by making babies or something?

*goes back to pointing and laughing at them for failing so hard*

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[info]notjo
2008-08-10 02:45 pm UTC (link)
Well, commonlaw marriages would be adultery. And those are legal here.

OH NOES! I'M CAUSING THE END OF THE WORLD!

I better inform the boy that I want more world-ending sex.

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[info]issendai
2008-08-10 03:16 pm UTC (link)
But... aren't those legal in a number of places in America, too, including quite a few Southern states?

As you're a sinful adulterifying Canadian, could you explain how common-law marriage works? Do you just live together for the necessary time period, then announce that you're married, or what?

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[info]notjo
2008-08-10 03:23 pm UTC (link)
If a couple lives together for a year, they are considered legally married for tax purposes. That's the main gist of it, really. I believe it also means I can put him down as "next of kin" on contact forms with the health people and that I have access to him in the hospital, but that's never been an issue that's come up.

I've never been asked to "prove" we lived together that long, though. There are probably legal ins and outs (heh) that I'm not aware of, though. If you're questioned, you need to be able to prove you've been cohabitating as spouses, but I imagine that's things like "we share a bed, our friends refer to us as a couple, there is shared ownership, blah blah."

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[info]issendai
2008-08-10 04:18 pm UTC (link)
Huh! Does that mean that you're automatically considered spouses, or does it kick in only if you decide it does? Do you get all the benefits of formal marriage? How does divorce work?

The concept of common-law marriage fascinates me. Where I live, marriage is a state-run legal affair with annoying requirements attached (blood test, vows before a qualified person, etc.), so the concept that two people could up and get married all on their own sounds positively libertine.

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[info]seperis
2008-08-10 06:39 pm UTC (link)
Yes, this. For some legal purposes (I cannot even pretend this works across the board) declaration equals intent. So if you regularly presented to the public as a married couple, that would do it. Conversely, you *could* live with your regular sex partner your entire life, but as long as you always presented that you were not married, it wouldn't count (again, not sure that works entirely across the board).

It's honestly the weirdest part of common marriage. I had to read the extraction for work for certain kinds of government benefits, and it kind of felt like reading the definition of I say, therefore I am--we had five questions to use and none of them required any kind of verification.

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[info]harrylovesron
2008-08-10 03:18 pm UTC (link)
...But... but... common law marriage means being in a committed, monogamous relationship, doesn't it? How does that equal adultery? Is this, again, crazy fundie logic... sex outside of marriage at all is somehow cheating?

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[info]notjo
2008-08-10 03:24 pm UTC (link)
Yes. Precisely that.

See, you weren't MARRIED IN A CHURCH BEFORE GOD, so you are not really married.

Since, as we know, being married in a church means you never have sex outside of marriage or get a divorce or are actually gay or anything. Being married in a church BURNS YOUR SOUL free of such things.

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[info]plazmah
2008-08-10 04:27 pm UTC (link)
Being married in a church BURNS YOUR SOUL free of such things

See, now I imagine a groom and bride at the altar, with the pastor pronouncing them husband and wife... and a laser beam comes down from the heavens and begins scorching the happy couple as they scream in agony.

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[info]come_love_sleep
2008-08-11 02:19 am UTC (link)
I thought 'adultery' was sex with someone other than your spouse, whereas sex when you had no spouse was fornication?

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[info]bienegold
2008-08-13 11:38 pm UTC (link)
I feel like they're getting adultery and fornication confused.

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[info]evilsqueakers
2008-08-11 06:06 am UTC (link)
See, you weren't MARRIED IN A CHURCH BEFORE GOD, so you are not really married.

What about if you were married in a church before God but there's no legal documentation?

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[info]seiberwing
2008-08-10 04:37 pm UTC (link)
Am I the only one wondering if they made that statement to get free publicity without all the hassle of actually protesting?

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[info]damnedfallacy
2008-08-10 05:13 pm UTC (link)
Nope. You are definitely not the only one.

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[info]gmth
2008-08-10 07:11 pm UTC (link)
These people almost make me wish freedom of speech didn't exist. Almost.

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[info]watersword
2008-08-10 07:51 pm UTC (link)
I work at the ACLU. What these people do isn't free speech, it's hate speech, and shouldn't be protected.

/not a lawyer, this is not legal advice, I do not speak for the ACLU or any other organization with which I am affiliated, etc.

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[info]finchbird
2008-08-11 04:38 am UTC (link)
Ugh. Stupid attention-whoring bastards. I hope the grandchildren will one day wake up and leave. Very soon.

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