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honorh ([info]honorh) wrote in [info]unfunnybusiness,
@ 2009-02-18 18:23:00
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Entry tags:another reason to hate people, it stops being funny at murder, oh john ringo no, sure we don't need no feminism, wtf

Man beheads wife
You read that right.

The crime drips with brutal irony: a woman decapitated, allegedly by her estranged husband, in the offices of the television network the couple founded with the hope of countering Muslim stereotypes.

Yeah, it appears that the wife had enough of her husband's abuse and filed for divorce. So he cut her head off.

Bonus: Contained in the article is the stupidest statement I've seen in weeks: "I just do not feel it was an honor killing," Sanders (former news director for the station) added. "I think it was domestic abuse that got out of control."

As opposed, of course, to the totally reasonable domestic abuse that goes on all the time. This would be one reason I hate the term "domestic violence/abuse." It sounds so civilized, like a domestic dog. Abuse is abuse; kindly do not slap qualifiers on it.


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[info]inappropriate
2009-02-18 11:27 am UTC (link)
"I just do not feel it was an honor killing,"

That statement... I mean... What the hell!? Honor killing!? So it would have been okay to kill her if it somehow could be considered an "honor killing"?

I am confused, someone explain. Am I reading it wrong?

And... Domestic abuse that got out of control? ISN'T ALL DOMESTIC ABUSE WRONG? ARGH.

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[info]honorh
2009-02-18 11:57 am UTC (link)
Inorite? And it was a woman who was speaking! Next time, she needs to engage her brain before spewing out her random neural firings.

I can't figure out if Sanders thought it would be worse or better if it had been an honor killing. Which it probably was, to some degree or another.

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[info]b_jellybean
2009-02-18 12:14 pm UTC (link)
I think "domestic abuse that got out of control" is a dumbass statement, but I think what she meant by saying that it wasn't an honor killing was that rather than being a one-time act of violence that came from this guy needing to "preserve his honor", it was murder that came out of a history of abuse.

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[info]tachikoma01
2009-02-18 08:06 pm UTC (link)
That's the only way it makes Earth-logic to me as well, was if she was trying to say "Don't assume that he killed her because he was a Muslim and it was an honor killing, assume he killed her because he's a trash bag with a history of abuse."

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[info]lady_ganesh
2009-02-19 02:23 am UTC (link)
This. Especially if you remember she works at a station whose stated purpose is to defeat stereotypes about Muslims, you've got to think she's trying to back away from "honor killing/Muslim fanatics."

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[info]evilsqueakers
2009-02-18 12:29 pm UTC (link)
Had she been a cheating lying piece of filth, the "honor killing" would have been justified for some seriously deluded people. And those people deserve to have their innies turned into outies...from the back.

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[info]ktnb
2009-02-18 04:20 pm UTC (link)
I'm assuming they used the phrase "honor killing" because he's Muslim, and they meant it wasn't a religious thing. That just means it's more boring, of course. Grrrrrr.

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[info]seasleepy
2009-02-18 04:55 pm UTC (link)
As it says at the beginning of the article, the killer and the victim started the TV station with "the hope of countering Muslim stereotypes".... so I'm not too surprised that someone that used to work at the station (and who knew the two of them) at least attempting to clarify so that the media doesn't jump to conclusions based on Muslim stereotypes.

I mean, I'm not sure that I believe it wasn't an honor killing, but the statement doesn't seem that weird to me.

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[info]athersgeo
2009-02-18 02:18 pm UTC (link)
I heard about this last week (courtesy of someone I know being vaguely connected) and I've now had nearly a week to get my head around it.

I'm still boggling.

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ariadne484
2009-02-18 03:17 pm UTC (link)
*cries*
*donates to my local shelter for battered spouses*

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[info]spudsey
2009-02-18 03:50 pm UTC (link)
"I just do not feel it was an honor killing," Sanders (former news director for the station) added. "I think it was domestic abuse that got out of control."

See icon, because I seriously cannot think of any other response to this.

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[info]persona
2009-02-18 03:57 pm UTC (link)
I saw this last night. It makes me sick.

(I agree re: 'domestic abuse'. Makes it sound so much lower-impact).

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[info]iamnotyourmuse
2009-02-18 04:00 pm UTC (link)
The only halfway non-ragey reason I can think of for the "I just do not feel it was an honor killing" statement might be that she was trying to say the beheading was a horrible thing done by a crazy asshole, not a horrible thing done by a crazy asshole using the custom of honor killing as an excuse?

No matter what, it's fucked up and I'm sticking with "crazy asshole".

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[info]chibikaijuu
2009-02-18 05:48 pm UTC (link)
I'm pretty sure that's what she meant.

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[info]erototoxin
2009-02-18 06:26 pm UTC (link)
Yes. And whether or not the killer saw it as an "honor killing", that's not a Muslim thing. That's a batshit-crazy thing.

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[info]sandglass
2009-02-18 05:55 pm UTC (link)
Would it be really crass to throw in some "Well, why didn't she just leave?" sarcasm here? I wish people would look at cases like this and stop saying that.

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[info]esorlehcar
2009-02-18 07:44 pm UTC (link)
It wouldn't be crass -- you'd just immediately get a bunch of comments missing the sarcasm and wholeheartedly agreeing.

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[info]honorh
2009-02-19 10:35 am UTC (link)
And totally missing, of course, that she *was* leaving. Which someone would attempt to explain to no avail, and it'd descend into a flamewar from there. Cat macros would then ensue.

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[info]esorlehcar
2009-02-19 06:06 pm UTC (link)
Several years ago (long before unfunnybusiness existed), someone posted a wank involving childfree-hardcover members victim-blaming (and in some cases gloating about) two young girls who were raped. One of the girls was a 16- or 17-year-old who had accepted a ride home from the grocery store from someone the article described as a "family acquaintance," and the FW comments were STILL full of people claiming she brought it on herself for getting into a car with a stranger. Even when it's directly and unequivocally spelled out, people still happily find a way to make it the victim's fault, every single time.

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[info]felinephoenix
2009-02-18 11:14 pm UTC (link)
Once again, I make the mistake of reading reading the comments! Didn't you guys know ALL Muslim men behead their wives?

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[info]quantumreality
2009-02-19 03:55 am UTC (link)
D:

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