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BOF ([info]bof) wrote in [info]unfunnybusiness,
@ 2009-03-03 18:13:00


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Endangering somebody is okay when you do it under your real name
Picked from [info]wank_report.

In the beginning of the year, Seeking-Avalon posted an open letter to Elizabeth Bear aka [info]matociquala about the representations of people of color in fiction. After Bear's initially reasonable response, a wank broke up among her supporters and friends and lead to Writing The Other/Great Cultural Appropriation Debate of DOOM '09. One of the participants in the debate was [info]coffeeandink, who also posted a public warning about Will Shetterly, who is a general fail person.

Now, Shetterly and Kathryn Cramer have been actively trying to out [info]coffeeandink's real life identity, with Cramer making accusations about [info]coffeeandink hiding behind anonymity and Shetterly making speculations about [info]coffeeandink's personal life and background. [info]coffeeandink has posted about this in her journal.

Apparently, Shetterly and Cramer both backed off when warned. But now they expect apologies for that. ETA: Appeared to back off, actually. As told by [info]vito_excalibur, Shetterly is now banned from Feminist SF Wiki for his efforts to reveal [info]coffeeandink's name.

Update: Kathryn Cramer has now password-protected her entire blog. There are screenshots of her post about [info]coffeeandink here and here, with [info]coffeeandink's name removed. Earlier she redirected those who tried to access her blog to a site with possible malware.

Update 2: [info]greyorm is now intentionally outing [info]coffeeandink.

Update 3: Shetterly has opened his ignorant trap again.

Update 4: Cramer is back to demanding an apology.

Update 5: A new general summary by [info]rydra_wong. [info]arionhunter has made a post about Elizabeth Bear's reaction.

Relevant posts

General summary of what's been going on.

[info]rydra_wong has a link masterlist here and more posts in her race fail-tag. [info]coffeeandink has her own race fail-tag here. Seeking-Avalon has a timeline about the original racefail here.

And if you want some comic relief, [info]mtgat has Meta in Song.


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[info]fools_game
2009-03-03 10:07 pm UTC (link)
That's why, even though these kerfuffles inevitably lead to anger and hurt and general despair at humanity, I love them anyway, because they're just so educational. Ditto feminism wanks. There are so many smart people on the internet, and in these situations they're even good enough to link to each other!

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[info]hector_rashbaum
2009-03-04 04:57 am UTC (link)
That's what keeps me going anytime I end up in an argument about sexism or homophobia or [insert depressing topic here].

When it gets shitty and wanky and I just want to go all-caps and ragey and ad hominem, I tell myself I can do that, and feel better for about ten minutes but affect nothing in the long run...or I can stay calm, and explain myself, and keep going as if I'm arguing a rational human being, because someday, if not right at that moment, rational human beings are going to read that conversation and think I am awesome and learn something.

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[info]ickle_snowflake
2009-03-04 07:37 pm UTC (link)
I like reading your patient explanations on FFR, they make me want to stab people less. (is theo_harrison on LJ)

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[info]hector_rashbaum
2009-03-04 08:20 pm UTC (link)
Ditto! You're one of my favorite FFR/FFRR people.

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[info]ickle_snowflake
2009-03-05 12:24 am UTC (link)
I feel all warm and fuzzy now. It's like being back in high-school and having one of the cool kids like me. :D

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