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BOF ([info]bof) wrote in [info]unfunnybusiness,
@ 2009-03-03 18:13:00


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Endangering somebody is okay when you do it under your real name
Picked from [info]wank_report.

In the beginning of the year, Seeking-Avalon posted an open letter to Elizabeth Bear aka [info]matociquala about the representations of people of color in fiction. After Bear's initially reasonable response, a wank broke up among her supporters and friends and lead to Writing The Other/Great Cultural Appropriation Debate of DOOM '09. One of the participants in the debate was [info]coffeeandink, who also posted a public warning about Will Shetterly, who is a general fail person.

Now, Shetterly and Kathryn Cramer have been actively trying to out [info]coffeeandink's real life identity, with Cramer making accusations about [info]coffeeandink hiding behind anonymity and Shetterly making speculations about [info]coffeeandink's personal life and background. [info]coffeeandink has posted about this in her journal.

Apparently, Shetterly and Cramer both backed off when warned. But now they expect apologies for that. ETA: Appeared to back off, actually. As told by [info]vito_excalibur, Shetterly is now banned from Feminist SF Wiki for his efforts to reveal [info]coffeeandink's name.

Update: Kathryn Cramer has now password-protected her entire blog. There are screenshots of her post about [info]coffeeandink here and here, with [info]coffeeandink's name removed. Earlier she redirected those who tried to access her blog to a site with possible malware.

Update 2: [info]greyorm is now intentionally outing [info]coffeeandink.

Update 3: Shetterly has opened his ignorant trap again.

Update 4: Cramer is back to demanding an apology.

Update 5: A new general summary by [info]rydra_wong. [info]arionhunter has made a post about Elizabeth Bear's reaction.

Relevant posts

General summary of what's been going on.

[info]rydra_wong has a link masterlist here and more posts in her race fail-tag. [info]coffeeandink has her own race fail-tag here. Seeking-Avalon has a timeline about the original racefail here.

And if you want some comic relief, [info]mtgat has Meta in Song.


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[info]hector_rashbaum
2009-03-04 04:57 am UTC (link)
That's what keeps me going anytime I end up in an argument about sexism or homophobia or [insert depressing topic here].

When it gets shitty and wanky and I just want to go all-caps and ragey and ad hominem, I tell myself I can do that, and feel better for about ten minutes but affect nothing in the long run...or I can stay calm, and explain myself, and keep going as if I'm arguing a rational human being, because someday, if not right at that moment, rational human beings are going to read that conversation and think I am awesome and learn something.

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[info]ickle_snowflake
2009-03-04 07:37 pm UTC (link)
I like reading your patient explanations on FFR, they make me want to stab people less. (is theo_harrison on LJ)

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[info]hector_rashbaum
2009-03-04 08:20 pm UTC (link)
Ditto! You're one of my favorite FFR/FFRR people.

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[info]ickle_snowflake
2009-03-05 12:24 am UTC (link)
I feel all warm and fuzzy now. It's like being back in high-school and having one of the cool kids like me. :D

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