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Re: DEAR WANKERS
(Anonymous)
2011-12-15 03:29 am UTC (link)

Unfortunately the failfandomanon crowd monitors this site like hawks so they can throw tantrums whenever anyone reports wank involving racism, sexism, homophobia, or anything else they claim doesn't exist. It's annoying as fuck, but it's never going to change - we're talking about people whose participation in fandom mainly consists of trying desperately to keep fan spaces from getting any less racist or sexist than they are now. It'd be nice if the mods would freeze the threads a little faster, but I can't exactly blame them for avoiding the comm given the lunatics who dictate the tone.

	Re: DEAR WANKERS waltraute 2011-12-15 03:32 am UTC (link)
	You? Are part of the problem. The comment applies to everyone. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: DEAR WANKERS (Anonymous) 2011-12-15 05:37 am UTC (link)
	Um, I've also observed that. How is pointing this out a part of the problem? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: DEAR WANKERS waltraute 2011-12-15 05:44 am UTC (link)
	This is not a place for you to wank about positions that you don't like. It's a place to report things, not generate massive threads. You want to wank, take it to some of the communities that are set up for it. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: DEAR WANKERS (Anonymous) 2011-12-15 10:07 pm UTC (link)
	So, to be clear, we should not comment back to people who do things like that on wank report? Because if it's just someone's comment to the wank report, I can easily not respond, but what if the actual wank report is filled with that sort of thing? Should we still not comment on it, or keep thinks simple like saying "grudge wank" or how would we do that? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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Re: DEAR WANKERS - (Anonymous), 2011-12-15 10:22 pm UTC

Re: DEAR WANKERS
(Anonymous)
2011-12-15 07:02 am UTC (link)

Technically, that anon was correct, though - for the last few months, every report that even remotely had to do with prejudice and fandom was highjacked by people complaining about something they call "Social Justice Warriors", whatever that is, regardless how much it applied in the first place.

No idea who the groups mentioned by the anon are, nor do I care, but what is obvious is that there are people here desperately trying to talk down any mention of prejudice in fandom. That's really why some reports get out of hand, it's always the same kind of comments, usually coupled with the specific -ism in the first place. This then incenses other people, and the comments explode.

Example: the trans related postings seem to attract the same vicious troll every time, who spews blatant transphobia, sparking retorts from the resident trans-anons. And I really can't blame them for that.

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	Re: DEAR WANKERS freezer 2011-12-15 07:09 am UTC (link)
	There is some Olympic-level point missing going hereabouts. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: DEAR WANKERS (Anonymous) 2011-12-15 07:14 am UTC (link)
	Well, that makes it easy for you, doesn't it. Also, wow, even when told to STFU people can't (I'm not excluding myself here, but at least I didn't start it). (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: DEAR WANKERS waltraute 2011-12-15 07:18 am UTC (link)
	You are free to take whatever you want to the unfunny comms. This? Not the place to wank endlessly about it. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: DEAR WANKERS (Anonymous) 2011-12-15 10:35 am UTC (link)
	I love how they whine and complain about others, but they're Totally Innocent for their own dogpilings and cyber-bullying. Thanks for giving further PROOF of the crap that Social Justice Warriors pull on other people under the excuse of "fighting -isms". You can't have it both ways. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: DEAR WANKERS (Anonymous) 2011-12-16 12:03 am UTC (link)
	Dogpiling becomes BadWrong when it happens to one of them or their buddies. The loudest ones were assholes before Racefail '09, and they're still assholes, just with a different style. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: DEAR WANKERS loopywafflehead 2011-12-16 02:39 pm UTC (link)
	Agreed. (Reply to this)(Parent)

Re: DEAR WANKERS
(Anonymous)
2011-12-16 11:05 pm UTC (link)

I'm the original anon, just replying to say, this.

Despite the claim that I'm part of the problem, I don't comment in those threads, I rarely even read them at this point, for the same reason I avoid failfandomanon and similar places - no one is trying to have a conversation or say anything new. It's all just "social justice sucks, anyone who cares about racism or sexism or homophobia or transphobia sucks, yay for the status quo, and fuck anyone unlike me who thinks they should be considered people even though they're not like me." And it's repeated ad nauseum in a blatant, and very successful, attempt to shut down any topic of conversation that might require them to admit the existence of prejudice or examine their own privilege.

I've been reading this comm for years, and while there have been scattered troll attacks, it's never been like this - the FFA trolls quite literally control the comm, to the point that it's impossible for anyone to report any wank that falls in any "social justice" realm without being relentlessly trolled until everyone shuts up about whatever problem they want to pretend doesn't exist.

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Re: DEAR WANKERS - (Anonymous), 2011-12-17 12:30 am UTC

Re: DEAR WANKERS - (Anonymous), 2011-12-16 11:41 pm UTC

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pyratejenni, 2011-12-17 06:32 pm UTC

Re: DEAR WANKERS - (Anonymous), 2011-12-17 05:36 am UTC

Re: DEAR WANKERS - (Anonymous), 2011-12-17 06:54 am UTC

	Re: DEAR WANKERS (Anonymous) 2011-12-15 10:35 am UTC (link)
	Oh, the smell of grudgewank and possible trolling. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: DEAR WANKERS (Anonymous) 2011-12-16 12:00 am UTC (link)
	Hi, Sandvag! I bet you and your fellow Unintelligent Fucking Blubberers are really pissed that people are calling you and your fellow SJWs out on your stupidity these days! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: DEAR WANKERS waltraute 2011-12-16 12:46 am UTC (link)
	Can we not? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: DEAR WANKERS (Anonymous) 2011-12-17 01:00 am UTC (link)
	I know you're disappointed over the lack of outraged response but making it up yourself is just sad. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: DEAR WANKERS (Anonymous) 2011-12-17 12:06 am UTC (link)
	Are you seriously saying that the mods are afraid of anonymous posters they can shut down with the touch of a button? For serious? Maybe the mods just don't agree with you. Has that thought occurred to you? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: DEAR WANKERS (Anonymous) 2011-12-17 12:52 am UTC (link)
	FFA? Where they rip into each other over onions? Are you kidding me? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: DEAR WANKERS (Anonymous) 2011-12-17 01:17 am UTC (link)
	And nutmeg, don't forget the nutmeg. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: DEAR WANKERS (Anonymous) 2011-12-17 01:52 am UTC (link)
	And now I've got this stuck in my head - http://youtu.be/yYf2yFD-iIk (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: DEAR WANKERS (Anonymous) 2011-12-20 02:28 pm UTC (link)
	And Muppets. OK, they were (allegedly) transgender Muppets of color, but still. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: DEAR WANKERS (Anonymous) 2011-12-18 12:47 am UTC (link)
	I really liked how FFA discussed Anthroplogie or some shit ripping off Najavo designs. Because racism. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: DEAR WANKERS (Anonymous) 2011-12-18 05:49 am UTC (link)
	Huh? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: DEAR WANKERS (Anonymous) 2011-12-18 08:19 am UTC (link)
	You're going to have to expand on that if you want anyone to know what the hell you're talking about. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

Re: DEAR WANKERS - (Anonymous), 2011-12-19 10:43 pm UTC

Re: DEAR WANKERS - (Anonymous), 2011-12-20 01:56 am UTC

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