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miss_sophia (![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif){kind=small} miss_sophia) wrote in ![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/community.gif){kind=small} wankitywank, |
Re: *rewrites to be less wanky*
The reason people are calling grudgewank is that you turned a situation that was hella wanky on its own into shipping wank. Yes, some of the big-name people who wank Harmonians showed up, but, at least as far as I can tell, it was only this thread that contained any anti-H/Hr commentary.principessa and narcissam in particular didn't say anything about Harmonians, at least not on any of the threads that you linked in your report.
I imagine that you likely have problems with the said anti-H/Hr commentary, and I suppose that's fair enough. However, that was just a tiny part of the wank; the main point was that people were arguing over an author's right, or lack thereof, to sell his or her fanfic, particularly at a price that's higher than that of canon. I think that had you added something like "And, of course, Harmonians are brought into the kerfluffle for their requisite beatdown" towards the end instead of making most of your report about shipping, the cries of grudgewank would have been far more muted. Yes, you'd probably still have gotten a reaction, because of your fandom history, but I think it would have been quieter. I, for one, would have had to concede the point to you in that case. I enjoy making fun of Harmonians (well, really, of any sector of fandom that is up with the batshit, even people on my own ship (R/S); Harmonians are just some of the most prominent crazies), but I would've agreed with you in this case.
And I can sympathize with your urge to wank the situation yourself, especially since people have been urging you to report wank for a while, but if you truly don't like the idea of laughing at stupidity in fandom (fair enough; that's your choice), then it seems best to me that you just don't bother with F_W. I'm not saying I want you to leave; I have no problem with you at all. I'm just pointing out the logical conclusion of an argument.
Overall, I say good on ya for posting the wank. Just tighten up your style a little, try to see the forest through the trees (again, the situation was wanky mainly for non-shipping reasons) and you'll be just fine. Maybe we'll make nicer icons about you. ;)
As for grudgewank--if you complain about me, then I expect you to complain about those who bring in Harmonians, or me, when I'm not involved.
Absolutely agreed, as long as we're both clear on the difference between grudgewank and general mocking. Grudgewank is when you wank someone not so much for something truly wanky the person did, but rather because you take issue with the person in the first place. Alternatively, it can take the form of wanking someone for doing something truly wanky, but focusing the wank report on a mainly unrelated problem you have with them from the past (like you did here). General mocking is bringing up past absurdities in the context of pointing and laughing (at the same issue or at another one). I'd try to be clearer about it, but I'm on the verge of being late for class. However, I'm glad to clarify further later, if you'd like.
The reason people are calling grudgewank is that you turned a situation that was hella wanky on its own into shipping wank. Yes, some of the big-name people who wank Harmonians showed up, but, at least as far as I can tell, it was only this thread that contained any anti-H/Hr commentary.
principessa and narcissam in particular didn't say anything about Harmonians, at least not on any of the threads that you linked in your report.I imagine that you likely have problems with the said anti-H/Hr commentary, and I suppose that's fair enough. However, that was just a tiny part of the wank; the main point was that people were arguing over an author's right, or lack thereof, to sell his or her fanfic, particularly at a price that's higher than that of canon. I think that had you added something like "And, of course, Harmonians are brought into the kerfluffle for their requisite beatdown" towards the end instead of making most of your report about shipping, the cries of grudgewank would have been far more muted. Yes, you'd probably still have gotten a reaction, because of your fandom history, but I think it would have been quieter. I, for one, would have had to concede the point to you in that case. I enjoy making fun of Harmonians (well, really, of any sector of fandom that is up with the batshit, even people on my own ship (R/S); Harmonians are just some of the most prominent crazies), but I would've agreed with you in this case.
And I can sympathize with your urge to wank the situation yourself, especially since people have been urging you to report wank for a while, but if you truly don't like the idea of laughing at stupidity in fandom (fair enough; that's your choice), then it seems best to me that you just don't bother with F_W. I'm not saying I want you to leave; I have no problem with you at all. I'm just pointing out the logical conclusion of an argument.
Overall, I say good on ya for posting the wank. Just tighten up your style a little, try to see the forest through the trees (again, the situation was wanky mainly for non-shipping reasons) and you'll be just fine. Maybe we'll make nicer icons about you. ;)
As for grudgewank--if you complain about me, then I expect you to complain about those who bring in Harmonians, or me, when I'm not involved.
Absolutely agreed, as long as we're both clear on the difference between grudgewank and general mocking. Grudgewank is when you wank someone not so much for something truly wanky the person did, but rather because you take issue with the person in the first place. Alternatively, it can take the form of wanking someone for doing something truly wanky, but focusing the wank report on a mainly unrelated problem you have with them from the past (like you did here). General mocking is bringing up past absurdities in the context of pointing and laughing (at the same issue or at another one). I'd try to be clearer about it, but I'm on the verge of being late for class. However, I'm glad to clarify further later, if you'd like.
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